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I am glad to know this, Maralyn.

I guess, having never tried it, I thought that space was smaller than it is. :-)

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I am glad to know this, Maralyn.

I guess, having never tried it, I thought that space was smaller than it is. :-)

I think part of it is FAA flight regulations, too. You never could obstruct aisles in an aircraft during flight. Now theyre just reiterating and and saying that they have the right to enforce a pet fee/revert to pet regulations if the dog does not behave according to protocol.

 

I know the the bulkhead area offers just a bit more legroom space and those are the places my friends request if they have an option.

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This situation -- a man accused of punching deaf pregnant woman and her service dog on an airplane -- should prove interesting. I hope it's followed up.

 

http://www.14news.com/story/38231905/airline-passenger-accused-of-punching-deaf-pregnant-woman-service-dog

 

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-punch-airplane-dog-pregnant-woman-20180518-story.html

 

One thing that immediately catches my attention is that the dog is still a puppy. Even therapy dogs have to be at least a year old before being certified, so I suspect there could be questions about this service dog's legitimacy. Doesn't excuse the man's behavior though.

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  • ...so I suspect there could be questions about this service dog's legitimacy. Doesn't excuse the man's behavior though.

 

Yeah, absolutely no excuse for punching anyone. But, besides the fact that the dog is only 8 months old, it's a great Dane. I get that for certain types of service, dogs need to be a minimum size. But an alert dog for a hearing-iimpaired person can be pretty small. While I would hate to try to figure out size restrictions for service animals, a great Dane is TOTALLY impractical as a service animal that is going to accompany his person in all sorts of public places. Besides the fact that they just don't fit in a lot of public spaces, their life expectancy is short, and they aren't particularly tolerant of either heat or cold. This sure looks to me like the couple decided they wanted a great Dane as a companion animal, and then decided that they could take their companion animal wherever they want if they train it (or claim to have trained it) to perform a service for them. It is really murky trying to clearly define what a "legitimate" service animal is, and I sure don't want to say what breeds or mixes can or can't be service dogs. But it seems to me that one criterion for selecting a dog as a service animal that will have unrestricted public access is whether that dog is physically suited to go everywhere in public.

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It is just not possible that an 8 month old puppy could be a genuine service dog. That person was not telling the truth.

The amount of training alone takes longer than that dog has been alive, and it also requires a level of calm and focus away from distractions that no 8 month old puppy is going to have. The youngest service dog I have known was 2 years old. Her training started at 6 months and at 2 she could go places with her person, but was still classified as "in training".

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Was it just not clarified that the dog was "in training" and not a "real service dog" yet? SDIT aren't wholly granted access in some/most states, but most businesses allow them anyway, at least in my experience.

 

I also saw in the article that "Frontier say service animals are permitted on all flights, as long as they are certified and properly harnessed." When will the education spread far enough that business will stop saying "certified?" All it does is feed the online fake "certification" companies!

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The NBC article does specifically point out that "There is no uniform nationwide certification or registration process for legitimate service animals — which receive up to several years of specialized training — making it easy for people to scam a non-existent system," which addresses both the certification question and, obliquely, the fact that this dog is too young to be a real service dog (and also mentions the fake "certification companies in the sentence following). It's possible that service-dogs-in-training are granted the same privileges as fully fledged service dogs, though I don't know that with any certainty and it's not addressed here at all.

 

It is kind of interesting to me that this incident made the news if there's a possibility that the dog in question isn't even legit. I'm guessing that perhaps the fact that the owner could legitimately be using a service dog with out question blinded those reporting the incident to the possibility that they could still have been scamming the system. As others have pointed out, a smaller dog with a longer life span would be a more practical choice in many ways as a hearing assistance dog.

 

On so many levels it just reinforces my belief that we do need some sort of verifiable certification system enacted so that real service dogs can be IDed as such so that the fake ones can be weeded out.

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^^ OK, that's just nuts. Not to mention irresponsible.

 

"The women told reporters at the airport that they knew Eleanor was pregnant but did not know she was so close to giving birth."

 

Then you err on the side of caution and leave the dog home with someone who can care for her. :P

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Unless you just got the dog, how could you not know how far along the pregnancy was?!

Really makes me wonder.

Was she even paying any attention to her dog?

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2 intact dogs of the opposite sex in the same home and they didn't know how far along the pregnant dog was. I'm guessing it's an oops litter because they were too irresponsible to prevent this from happening.

 

The dogs are supposedly both service dogs. If so, they're not from any reputable service dog agency. They spay and neuter their dogs so that sex driven distractions don't interfere with their work. How could this pregnant dog possibly be focused on her job when she's whelping?

 

My guess is that these are either self trained service dogs or else it's just someone else scamming the system for free airline accommodations for the dogs.

 

Yeah. I'm getting more cynical by the day.

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Clearly the airline carrier did not require a recent health cert prior to flying.

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Today I saw an adult dog with a "service dog in training" vest on but it was quite obvious that the handler was neither a service dog trainer nor was the dog a real service dog. A few (or a lot, perhaps) are ruining things for those who are real service animals and service animal-reliant people.

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