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She just doesn't get it. It's not that she killed a cat she thought was a destructive or damaging stray. Stray cats, coyotes, raccoons, skunks - they can all be subject to a bullet in certain circumstances. It was that she shot the freaking cat with an arrow, posed for a PHOTO like some redneck idiot and then POSTED THE DAMNED THING ON FACEBOOK! :angry:

It's not that she killed an animal, it's that she took pleasure in it and bragged with obvious glee. That is not normal behavior in anyone I want to know, let alone someone charged with caring for other people's precious pets.

I actually don't fault her boss so much, since it appears she simply told him that she'd disposed of the cat, not of the method she chose to do so.

~ Gloria

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It's not that she killed an animal, it's that she took pleasure in it and bragged with obvious glee. That is not normal behavior in anyone I want to know, let alone someone charged with caring for other people's precious pets.

 

 

Well, I live in Iceland, the goose and reindeer hunting season are just over, ptarmigan beginning next week.

My facebook page is bursting with people taking pleasure in killing, bragging about it and posting with obvious glee posing next to bloody deer carcasses and piles of dead birds.

 

Do have to say I am not enthusiastic about that, I am not a big fan of hunting.

 

But she claims she was hunting vermin, and her method was not that bad really, clean headshot with a broad-head hunting arrow. No much difference with a bullet to the head imo.

 

i don´t claim to know much about US law, but is it illegal to hunt feral cats?

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If she had just killed the cat, it would never have been blown up into such a big deal. The US has a huge hunting culture, even in the liberal North East where we lived, but killing cats is not part of that culture. To brag about the kill, claim you should be awarded vet of the year, is what has caused the issue, killing an animal that as vet you will be being paid to care for does not look good. The situation then got worse when someone came forward and claimed the cat was theirs.

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Presumably those Icelanders aren't vets?

How is that relevant?

I know of one vet that is an enthusiastic hunter, yes. You think he should be suspended from his job?

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No, most people in America don't hunt feral cats. Cats are viewed as little lap pets, and for a vet to shoot one is, in some Americans' eyes, extremely horrifying.

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If she had just killed the cat, it would never have been blown up into such a big deal. The US has a huge hunting culture, even in the liberal North East where we lived, but killing cats is not part of that culture. To brag about the kill, claim you should be awarded vet of the year, is what has caused the issue, killing an animal that as vet you will be being paid to care for does not look good. The situation then got worse when someone came forward and claimed the cat was theirs.

Ah yes there is indeed a lot of weirdness if not hypocrisy in the ethics we apply to animals.

If you are a cat here in Iceland you are free to roam the country side happily diminishing local wildlife . But if you are a mink, another species of small predator that was introduced by humans to this island fairly recently, you are hunted intensively and with all possible means (some of which are pretty cruel)..

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How is that relevant?

I know of one vet that is an enthusiastic hunter, yes. You think he should be suspended from his job?

 

Well, like it or not, there's animals and then there's animals.

 

In some countries dogs are killed and eaten without a single thought. Ditto horses. I agree that the most disturbing aspect of the crime was the woman broadcasting her delight with herself for killing the cat. The whole "mighty hunter" aspect of her behavior was sickening. Big strong woman dominates 10lb house cat. Yeesh!

 

Pot hunting is different from simply killing animals that cross your path. I have shot my share of cottontails, quail and ducks. I ate them. They were delicious. But I wouldn't shoot a dog or cat (or wild predator, for that matter) unless it was worrying my livestock or attacking my pets or a person. And I would certainly not crow about having done it. I would view it as a grim necessity.

 

 

We live in a culture that regards cats as pets. There is no way she could not have known that. I'm not convinced that she did not know the cat was a neighbor's pet. If she thought the cat could be a danger to her own animals, why did she not trap it and turn it over to animal control? I have not heard anything suggesting that the cat was, say, killing her chickens.

 

 

While snuffing a domestic cat and bragging about it may not make her a bad vet, it does make her, in my estimation, a person of dubious ethics, a cruel streak as wide as a freeway, and demonstrates poor judgement. I tend to avoid doing business or associating with such people. I once worked for a vet who on more than one occasion, used damaging, violent, retaliatory force on animals which were ill and frightened and attempted to defend themselves from painful or frightening treatment.

 

 

In all other respects the man was a good vet. But I quit and I reported him. I think the cat-killing vet should have to answer for her behavior. If that means losing her license, oh well...

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She claimed that she was protecting her animals from disease carried by feral cats.

 

She only came up with that argument after the uproar over her awful photo on the internet.

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Just stumbled on this series of updates on the case while looking into something else. http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/one-year-license-suspension-ordered-kristen-lindsey There are links to earlier articles at the end.

 

I think someone asked how her killing the cat was relevant to her veterinary practice. The article prior to the one linked above states that the judges' proposal for decision "notes that Lindsey's actions were connected with the practice of veterinary medicine through her Facebook post and therefore she may be sanctioned under appropriate board rules....[the Texas Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners] TBVME found her in violation in the Veterinary Practice Act." http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/judges-bow-killing-case-recommend-license-suspension

 

Their ultimate decision was significantly less than what was proposed by TBVME: "the administrative law judges had recommended a five-year suspension of her license, with four years of that suspension being fully probated with quarterly reporting, required continuing education in veterinary jurisprudence and animal welfare or other such classes the board deemed fit. The judges also recommended a community service requirement of at least 100 hours to be completed at a feline rescue, free spay-neuter clinic or similar facility."

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