CptJack Posted May 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 She definitely doesn't have any trouble with her jump height, or in clearing it without OVER clearing it. She's a very, very efficient jumper and it's very cool - to me, anyway, after seeing so many pictures of dogs jumping WAY above the bar and sometimes even nearly clearing the jump standards and thinking that was desirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Um. This isn't perfect - I screwed up 8 to 9 - but I think. I am learning to stay out of her way. SLOWLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 There are PLENTY of (many) handling errors here, and in some cases I can't even tell you wtf I was thinking. But mission 'get off the dog's butt' is coming along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawgirl Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 That is excellent, I love the distance you are getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, Lawgirl said: That is excellent, I love the distance you are getting. THANK YOU! Meeeee, too. More importantly, so does Molly. She has a space bubble and would prefer I stay out of it. She also prefers me with distance because I have some time to think and cue her. It's cutting down both our frustration levels by a TON. Learning how to use that distance on more 'cluttered' courses is a work in progress and going to be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawgirl Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Ah, I wondered why you were working on it so hard. Me, it would be so I don't have to run so much. But if Molly prefers the distance work, then that is where you need to go. And if it is easier on you (on course, not in training) so much the better! Are you using verbals, or is it mainly the arm signals/body movement? Because I suspect some combination will be needed for the more cluttered courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, Lawgirl said: Ah, I wondered why you were working on it so hard. Me, it would be so I don't have to run so much. But if Molly prefers the distance work, then that is where you need to go. And if it is easier on you (on course, not in training) so much the better! Are you using verbals, or is it mainly the arm signals/body movement? Because I suspect some combination will be needed for the more cluttered courses. There is also an added benefit in not having to bust butt and run We're doing both. My body language needs cleaned up a lot. Sadly what you're seeing there IS improved. Hopefully it will continue to do so. Verbals are in play too, though, in a handful or so of commands. We'll see where it goes/how it goes. I don't need anymore distance than I have with her now - that's elite chances stuff, which she excels at - I just need to be better at using it. I've got a seminar coming up in November that's distance focused. Hopefully it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligande Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 You are really starting to get some nice distance, the one handling move from NADAC that I have always liked is the switch (change lead) and you have it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 7 hours ago, alligande said: You are really starting to get some nice distance, the one handling move from NADAC that I have always liked is the switch (change lead) and you have it down. Thanks! The dog is happy about the distance! I really like switches. They confounded me for a while. At this point they're my favorite thing, even with slower dogs who are closer. They just seem to create a really nice, clean, turn and side change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligande Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 21 hours ago, CptJack said: Thanks! The dog is happy about the distance! I really like switches. They confounded me for a while. At this point they're my favorite thing, even with slower dogs who are closer. They just seem to create a really nice, clean, turn and side change. In my world of agility they don't have a lot of use, but on the wide open NADAC courses they work really well. It is something I would like in my tool box but my youngster has so many other critical skills to master that I don't think its going to happen, an independent backside is much more critical for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 A NADAC switch is essentially a OMD tandem turn. Or,rather, a tandem turn is a kind of switch, I guess. I've used them on AKC style courses, but I definitely don't disagree international courses are a whole 'nother ball game! OneI know nothing about and play very little. Independent backsides sound super fun though! Hard! But fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligande Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 1:58 PM, CptJack said: A NADAC switch is essentially a OMD tandem turn. Or,rather, a tandem turn is a kind of switch, I guess. I've used them on AKC style courses, but I definitely don't disagree international courses are a whole 'nother ball game! OneI know nothing about and play very little. Independent backsides sound super fun though! Hard! But fun! I started in NADAC, its not really a tandem turn, as its taught as a change of lead, I think what makes it so unique is that it is primarily used on the flat as a change of direction, I have watched NADAC masters use it well and always loved it. There were many things I hated about NADAC but I always loved the switch command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hm. I wouldn't try to speak about OMD or international courses, and won't dispute that they're not the same (though I will say that first example in this very old video is something I've seen used as a skill example in OMD videos for tandem turns). Switches are taught as a lead changes, initially, but it's also taught as 'turn away from me' at that stage. - dog on left, walk forward cookie in right hand goes on dog's nose, flip out away from you in about turn. In use - they're used a LOT on the flat but also used pretty freaking diversely from barely any turn as a regular old rear cross on the flat, to the common lead change flip out at 90 degrees to 180 degree entries to obstacles to wraps (switch-tight) where the dog takes the obstacle, lands and flips around/away to wrap the upright (hoops mostly, or barrels, sometimes jumps, I think.). NADAC courses have changed pretty massively over the past few years. Open flowing courses are no longer super common. They're still not the same as many organizations (and for me thank god), and still with lots of flow, but OPEN and flowing mostly only in the special skills/secondary classes like touch and go, (and very, very occasionally jumpers - never regular), they're what I sometimes see and get happy about, not what I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 And that tandem turn 'how to start teaching it' is accidentally a great example of how dogs are started on switches. I'm not telling you to teach them. I'm just saying they're not NADAC specific. UKI uses them and even uses the same verbal, in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted January 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 It's been over a year, but I'm popping in because touch and go with Molly has been our 'dragon' of a game and this year, while we haven't done much - We've slain that particular dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcv-border Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, CptJack said: We've slain that particular dragon. That was lovely. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 1:43 PM, gcv-border said: That was lovely. :-) Thank you. Having Andrea tell me Molly's actually really difficult because of her wildly varied commitment point toned down my level of frustration at myself a LOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted September 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 So, another year later-- It's definitely been a journey, but I am very proud of us both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcv-border Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Super distance handling. You should be proud of Team Molly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 17 hours ago, gcv-border said: Super distance handling. You should be proud of Team Molly. thanks. Surprisingly (or perhaps not) that's less intentional use of distance for the sake of distance just... what's required of me to handle her at all. Buys me time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcv-border Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 I understand. Fast dogs demand distance handling. With my first agility trainer, she taught a style that didn't use much distance handling. (very few rear crosses, no layering) She kept encouraging me saying "you CAN get there for that front cross". Oh Heck no I can't. Torque and I were extremely frustrated. Then she tried running a short sequence with him one day. HaHa. After that, she understood and was more on board with layering and rear crosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Yeah. No, no I would not/cannot get there in time for the front Also just pressure sensitivity. Trying to run into Molly's space/get ahead of her isn't going to work anyway. She has a bubble and if I'm pushing too hard at it she's going out ANYWAY and there will be layering whether I like it or not (sometimes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted October 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 I am posting this here again so soon SOLEY because I cannot believe we managed to pull off a tunnel to get a weave entry. Miracles happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcv-border Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Yay. Very tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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