waffles Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I was finally able to get video of one of Dixie's mild BCC episodes. I have submitted the form to the U of Minnesota doing the study and just sent the videos as well. These have been happening since May. In weather from 65-85, sometimes just a few throws of a ball and other times after running in the field. I would say a total of 8-9 times this has happened. This is mild, other times she can't get up the steps, falls sideways. Her behavior is just like the University of Minnesota describes. Totally fine while doing the activity, a minute or two after I say that'll do, she starts stumbling. The mental dullness is quite pronounced. We sometimes have to just quickly move behind her and pick her up to get her in the house. She is just not there, call her name and she may turn her head towards you but does not actually respond. She just wanders around the yard looking lost until we pick her up or take her by the collar. Sometime she ducks under the barn and goes weird places with no intentions. Once in the house, 5-10 minutes later and she is completely fine. We do our best to prevent these but it is not always predictable. I thought I would share this as there are only a few videos online it seems. She looks just like the dogs in the U of M videos. Let me know if the videos do not work, first time using Google Photos and one file is too large so I had to use the link below. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO5F4zfSl8IHSgTgi3du1kKIQ047i-TSlyhgBF5L1IObpnaCDK0mB66Kd2s3RW1fw?key=VVdOUV9telZET2F2UkFoVno0SE82Y2VrMFA2c0pB https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMIwY_iiRY99qxVyVehX2j67PN2S8F_uJQVZ5y4lH_7LQJ82fz8mNCiqG3sMhfuHw?key=RE80MzZJMUxjNDJMNXpzano1dXZ1bC1TQjZWeWRn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraV Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Thank you for sharing. Such a crazy neurological episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Thank you for sharing, it's very kind of you. Can I put the links on the Polish BC health site and group so that people can learn from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted September 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Yes please do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted September 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 The strange thing is that it is well known in Labradors, they say mostly field bred, and there is testing for it. I don't know anything other than basic genetics, but I hope they are close to developing testing for border collies. It is scary to read that everything is normal, the dogs analyzed during/after an episode are fine but... 'some dogs have died during episodes'. If the dogs appear to be clinically fine for the most part during the episodes then what is causing their deaths? https://vetdnacenter.com/dna-tests/canine-dna-testing/inherited-disease-screening/canine-exercise-induced-collapse/ http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/exercise-induced-collapse-labrador-retrievers?id=&sk=&date=&&pageID=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickAndArtoo Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Our BC does this too! Really freaks me out... I didn't see the death part now I'm scared, I thought they just did it and then were fine all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Billadeau Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 I know of no border collies that have died from bcc. I think some labs have died drowning because of eic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted September 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 I believe that I have only seen that in sites for EIC in Labradors. It makes sense that drowning would be the cause though none of the sources I read mentioned that important bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted September 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Video of a more pronounced episode: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwhujKMRKNJsMEhPdmdjQW43bmJiSEtpMjBNZVo1T2ZyeGww https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwhujKMRKNJsSTk5MXpSZ0NuYXdiVTFNTkt0TzVfeExDc1RN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Thank you for sharing. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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