Rave Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sad to say this guy is near me: http://www.jconline.com/article/20121004/NEWS/310040025/dog-breeder-sanders-collies-animal-cruelty-health?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workindogs Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 He has made "appearances" on FB trying to buy dogs or offering dogs for sale. There are a number of us that have posted warnings to potential buyers but he seems to have a number of "defenders". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz P Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Just the tip of the iceberg. I know of another kennel in Indiana that people have been working to shut down. Here is to hoping that the dogs get the care they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildFlower Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 So sad. Poor dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSmitty Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ugh. Poor, poor dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Festerling Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Amazes me though how despite obvious bad conditions, they can't or won't do anything! That sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCStarkey Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Hello everyone, On the breeder's website, there are photos of the puppies that are currently for sale, and they are absolutely filthy! And, the photo of the dam shows her crammed into a crate that isn't large enough for her, much less with her puppies. Let's hope that this guy's operation will be shut down permanently!!! Regards, nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Festerling Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 OMG!!!! And this still isn't enough??? I did not go to his site earlier. Wow! How can anyone not see that this is below ANY standard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Sadly, this happens in lots of places. This guy and others like him are evidence of the laws already in place not being applied. If he is physically incapable of keeping dogs in humane conditions, then he doesn't need to be raising dogs (and I say that because it seems his health issues are being used as an excuse for the deplorable conditions in which he's keeping dogs). J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Wolf Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 not the only one, there is at least one near KC that is a colour miller. Might be better conditions but cranking out puppies all the same with no real regard to anything but colour.. And if you look around you will find more. many ABCA registered (some dual). Might just suprise many who some of the millers are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Might just suprise many who some of the millers are. How about letting us know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarling Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Here is a LINK with more photos of Sanders' place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Most recent story on this idiot: http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/dog-breeding-business-could-be-public-health-hazard How on earth is he not listed as a commercial kennel with 43 dogs? CAN ABCA DO ANYTHING???? Do you think Dianne Deal and Patrick Shannahan would be interested in knowing they sold a stud dog to a puppy mill? http://sandersbordercollies.com/sandersbordercollies/pedigrees_files/SPUD2010.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz P Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Rave, in 99% of the cases where a well bred dog from a good breeder lands in a puppy mill, the dog was not sold there directly. In other words, the breeder sells a pup. New owner then sells it as a young dog for many reason. Dog gets passed along to several more homes and eventually lands in a mill. I have seen it happen over and over again. The other 1% of the time, the mill was able to trick the breeder into thinking they were a good home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen Stein Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 How on earth is he not listed as a commercial kennel with 43 dogs? That depends on state law. Under Indiana law, evidently, a commercial breeder is "a person who maintains more than twenty (20) unaltered female dogs that are at least twelve (12) months of age." Maybe he does not have more than 20 unaltered females over a year old, or maybe he does but manages to conceal that fact. CAN ABCA DO ANYTHING???? If he had been convicted of animal cruelty or neglect, ABCA could have suspended him, but he was acquitted. ABCA does not comment publicly about their ongoing investigations into complaints about breeders. But the fact is that the most ABCA could do is expel him from membership, and that has not slowed down any previous breeders who were expelled. They just carry on with their operation and register with a different registry, with no change in circumstances for the dogs. In fact, this person rarely registers with the ABCA. He either registers his pups with other registries or sells them without papers. The only realistic hope of improving conditions for these dogs lies with local law enforcement. Do you think Dianne Deal and Patrick Shannahan would be interested in knowing they sold a stud dog to a puppy mill?http://sandersbordercollies.com/sandersbordercollies/pedigrees_files/SPUD2010.pdf They may or may not have done that, I don't know, but I'm sure they know where the dog is now and there's not a thing they can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Never mind. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Dogs Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I wonder if Mr. Sanders even understands or sees the condition he keeps his dogs in. His behavior seems similar to many hoarding situations I've seen. The dogs that live there show body language indicating that they are completely unsocialized and afraid of people. The filth doesn't appear to bother the owner and he doesn't recognize that photos of his dogs' condition will lose him sales. He doesn't seem to care about the dogs' welfare or recognize that such a thing exists. I am very sad for him and the poor dogs that end up in his care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 The latest from the local paper ... http://www.jconline.com/article/20130102/NEWS02/301020021/County-again-kennel-owner-s-tail CLARK HILLS — Tippecanoe County officials claim the dogs at Sanders Border Collies are being bred and raised in poor conditions, without water in their bowls and without the necessary vaccinations to keep them healthy. Meanwhile, owner Randy Sanders argues that he is the victim of repeated harassment from a number of Tippecanoe County agencies — most recently, the sheriff’s office and animal control, the health department and the building commission — and competing dog breeders because “(they) hate me,” Sanders told the Journal & Courier on Wednesday. Now their ongoing feud is coming to a head on two fronts: On Jan. 23, Sanders will go before Tippecanoe County’s Area Board of Zoning Appeals to contest a finding that he’s illegally operating a kennel on his property at 10112 S. County Road 700 East near Clarks Hill. Then, tentatively in late March, he will stand trial in Tippecanoe Superior Court 6 for 19 county ordinance violations — 12 for not providing water in his dogs’ pens and seven for the dogs not having up-to-date rabies vaccinations. Those violations were filed in November by the prosecutor’s office, based on a Sept. 26 inspection of Sanders Border Collies by county animal control officer April Keck. As of Wednesday, the kennel housed 28 dogs. Each violation, if Sanders is found guilty, would be a fineable offense. “The county keeps coming up with and changing different things to complain about,” Sanders said. “They’ve got no legs to stand on.” The 65-year-old Sanders, who was born with cerebral palsy and uses a wheelchair, has been raising border collies since the early 1960s. The business is his main source of income, Sanders said, though it’s supplemented by disability checks. County officials have said they would like to see Sanders Borders Collies shut down. Prior attempts, however, have failed. In March 2012, following a bench trial in Tippecanoe Superior Court 5, Judge Les Meade acquitted Sanders of two counts of cruelty to animals. The misdemeanor charges were based on allegations that Sanders did not provide his dogs with proper shade, according to his attorney, James Ayres. “Yet all of their evidence showed that there was shade,” Ayers said Wednesday, reiterating that Sanders believes he is unfairly targeted. The latest complaints were made by three parties: a southern Indiana border collie breeder, an interested buyer and a woman who had visited Sanders Border Collies and purchased a puppy. They previously told the J&C that some dogs were covered in feces and did not have shade. That led to the Sept. 26 visit by Keck. On Oct. 1, the health department declared the pole barn where Sanders keeps his dogs a health hazard and gave him a deadline to correct problems such as inadequate on-site sewage disposal and insufficient rodent control. Lafayette attorney Randy Vonderheide, who represents the health department, said Wednesday that efforts to “resolve this problem” from the health hazard angle have been put on hold. Instead, the health department decided to partner with the Area Plan Commission and Board of Zoning Appeals to get Sanders Border Collies either shut down or up to standards. “Our position is that his use is not legal,” Vonderheide said of Sanders. “He has the ability to attempt to make it legal.” According to Ayres, Sanders should be exempt from an ordinance that requires kennel operators to seek approval first. “The question is, did he have to have permission?” Ayres said. “They’re alleging that he’s not been there long enough to have been grandfathered in.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentleLake Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 And apparently he's still at it. <sigh> http://www.jconline.com/article/20130625/NEWS/306250035/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlcart77 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 If things are so bad and he is in a wheel chair, and you are so concerned about the puppies. Why don't someone get up and help. Don't just sit back and complain. They haven't shut him down so he must be doing something right.? Ya'll can sit back and complain and run your mouth waiting for someone else to do something. Get up off your butts and help him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I don't have a clue who you are but I will just turn the question right back around at you and rephrase it - just what are *you* doing to help remedy the abysmal conditions that these poor animals are living in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon's girl Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Like!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen Stein Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Actually, I think they have shut him down. This is the latest info I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Actually, I think they have shut him down. This is the latest info I've seen. That would be good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well it seems he can go back in a year and ask for an exception.... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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