People disgust me...

[lyndzbrown]

I really really don't understand what goes through peoples minds. Thank god the dog is okay.

 

http://www.katu.com/news/local/105913623.html

[bskeeter]

OMG! I'm so glad he survived! I looked at the pictures (very graphic) of the removal of the arrow. It was HUGE! Poor pup. Hope they find the person that did this to him.

[Tommy Coyote]

I wonder if they have found other dogs that have been shot? Or other dogs that have gone missing?

 

We had a guy in our neighborhood that was killing any dog that wandered onto his property. Then he would leave the dead dog on the people's doorstep for the kids to find. It was awful.

 

Police couldn't get him but the rednecks did. Never heard exactly what went down but he moved away in a hurry.

 

Problem is he just moved to someone else's neighborhood.

 

World is full of sickos.

[BrittanyS]

That is horrible!

 

We just took our Shepherd in for her xrays and they found a .22 in her back!

[njnovice]

I wonder if they have found other dogs that have been shot? Or other dogs that have gone missing?

 

We had a guy in our neighborhood that was killing any dog that wandered onto his property. Then he would leave the dead dog on the people's doorstep for the kids to find. It was awful.

 

Police couldn't get him but the rednecks did. Never heard exactly what went down but he moved away in a hurry.

 

Problem is he just moved to someone else's neighborhood.

 

World is full of sickos.

 

 

Good for the rednecks.

 

I know this makes me a bad liberal, but I've never seen the harm in some Jersey-style justice, when needed.

[vickim]

Vigilante justice isn't always wrong...To share a story in a similar vein: My mother lives in a rural are in a different state. One of her neighbors has a dog that she keeps in a fenced in yard. I'm not sure if she walked the dog, or the dog got out, but some hunters tracked the dog back to its home, and shot it dead while it was in his own yard. The owner came home and there was her dog, shot to death.

[Laurae]

Vigilante justice isn't always wrong...To share a story in a similar vein: My mother lives in a rural are in a different state. One of her neighbors has a dog that she keeps in a fenced in yard. I'm not sure if she walked the dog, or the dog got out, but some hunters tracked the dog back to its home, and shot it dead while it was in his own yard. The owner came home and there was her dog, shot to death.

 

Um...you don't think that's wrong?

[burdock]

Our second cat lilliana was shot through the side and the 22 slug was almost through the skin on the other side, never hit an organ and she is now 10 years old and living the good live with our other rescue cat Burdock and Border Collie Emma. The 22 lead is taped to her Vet record book as a reminder of the event plus I wanted to call her lucky cat but the name didn't stick.

[Kelleybean]

My vet told me that he treated a cocker spaniel that was shot with an arrow during bow season. The dog survived tnank goodness, but the fact is that some hunters (not all) will shoot anything that moves. I've noticed on more than one occasion that my BC looks just like a deer running in the woods with that white tail tip. I keep a close eye on her during hunting season!

[vaporflowers]

Um...you don't think that's wrong?

 

I think the story and the vigilante comment were unrelated... maybe vigilante justice WOULD have been an appropriate response to what those hunters did.

 

That's my interpretation of her post.

[ejano]

I really really don't understand what goes through peoples minds. Thank god the dog is okay.

 

http://www.katu.com/news/local/105913623.html

Around here, many hunters upon seeing a dog running in the woods, might well assume the dog is chasing game and they would indeed shoot it. But heaven help the person who would harm one of THEIR dogs.

 

Bless the dog and its owner. I've been watching the 2007 British Trials (The "Come Bye" program) online and one competitor directing his dog from his wheelchair, competed in the Scottish finals.

 

I hope whoever shot this man's dog feels at least ashamed enough to pay the vet bill.

 

Liz

[Tommy Coyote]

Good for the rednecks.

 

I know this makes me a bad liberal, but I've never seen the harm in some Jersey-style justice, when needed.

What else are you going to do in a case where the police can't do anything? That jackass killed a blue tick hound that was owned by one of the hunters in the neighborhood. He also killed a little border collie cross that belonged to a handicapped woman. I used to walk my dogs at about 4:30 every morning. That little dog would actually come up and knock on my door in the morning when it was time to go. She always went with us.

 

I called the police and they came out but they can't spend time sitting and waiting to catch someone like that. I did want to be sure that they knew that sicko was down there.

 

It was just kind of the redneck version of a homes association. Several of those guys went down there together. I don't know what happened - don't want to know. They got rid of him and that's all I cared about.

[Sue R]

The world is full of all kinds, in all endeavors. A hunter shot our Rocket at close range; two hunters saved his life when he wandered into their camp, full of shot, frightened, and hungry. They fed him, shared shelter with him, and (once they realized he was not "right") read his tags and drove to the vet office, where they were able to get into contact with me.

 

Fortunately, most of those I have run into have been good folks but there are still too many that are not. I'm glad to hear this dog will be okay. Another reminder to keep dogs under control and not let them run loose unsupervised, ever.

[sea4th]

I hope whoever shot this man's dog feels at least ashamed enough to pay the vet bill.

 

Liz

 

I'd look for h-ll to freeze over first.

[Maja]

Poor dog!!! It's more likely a target practice arrow, not a hunting arrow - the smooth way it penetrated under the skin -lucky for the dog.

Maja

[Malvie]

Disgusting indeed.

 

The coolio thing to do around here (I live in the city) is to prowl the neighborhood looking for homes that have a Border Collie, Aussie, Springer, Pointer, Lab, etc (nice dogs), steal them from the back yards while the owners are away or inattentive---and use the dogs as "bait" to teach their pit bulls how to kill another dog.

 

If I ever catch someone messing with my dogs---I have a .357 and they will not see another sunrise.

 

There are SOME advantages to living in Texas; I'd never be convicted.

[njnovice]

Disgusting indeed.

 

The coolio thing to do around here (I live in the city) is to prowl the neighborhood looking for homes that have a Border Collie, Aussie, Springer, Pointer, Lab, etc (nice dogs), steal them from the back yards while the owners are away or inattentive---and use the dogs as "bait" to teach their pit bulls how to kill another dog.

 

If I ever catch someone messing with my dogs---I have a .357 and they will not see another sunrise.

 

There are SOME advantages to living in Texas; I'd never be convicted.

 

Honestly, the bait dog thing is largely an urban legend. As for the "nice dog" thing, lots of pit bulls ARE nice dogs...even most of the fighting pit bulls are nice dogs. They might not be good with other dogs, but most will let a person do anything to them. One reason (aside from attracting idiots) that they are so often abused.

[VegasMike]

Honestly, the bait dog thing is largely an urban legend. As for the "nice dog" thing, lots of pit bulls ARE nice dogs...even most of the fighting pit bulls are nice dogs. They might not be good with other dogs, but most will let a person do anything to them. One reason (aside from attracting idiots) that they are so often abused.

 

 

Honestly the bait dog thing is very real. And in actuality it is the more heinous part of dog fighting. While I was in the Army I served with a lot of men that came from colored backgrounds and choose the military as their way of getting out. One of these men was a guy who used to be involved with people that fight dogs. When you compare the actual fighting versus what some of the training is like (ie.... baiting) the fighting in itself is nothing. I am by no means defending fighting dogs for peoples amusement. I find it disgusting. But stealing dogs for baiting purposes is a real threat in urban areas. I will say mostly its the pits that aren't good fighters that are used for this. But is by no means a myth.

 

As far people shooting dogs on their property or in the wild. I don't like it. And would probably react very badly if it happened to me. But why are these dogs running free? Not making an excuse for bad behavior. But its not everyone else's responsibility to make sure your dog makes it home safe. Long time ago when I applied for a hunting license in PA it was encouraged to shoot cats on site while hunting in the woods. As they had been shown at the time to be damaging populations of native species. I have no idea if that changed. But that's exactly the sort of reason that our cats don't leave the house. Even though I am more of a "dog man" I would be crushed if that happened to our cat.

[geonni banner]

Hmmmmmm. I live in Richmond California. Arguably the Pit Bull capitol of the world. There really aren't many dogs stolen as bait dogs. It happens - but not usually by pros or their minions. And the whole thing about tying a kitten to a stick and poking it at the dogs to piss them off and "make them mean" is mostly bogus too. I'm not saying it never happens, but people who match their dogs have other ways of stirring them up.

Pit bulls don't have to be "mean" to do well in the the pit - they just have to be "game." Game-bred Pit Bulls - that is, Pits that are bred for the pits - like to fight. When their handlers are facing them off they aren't hackling or acting pissed off. They are pulling and wagging their tails, barking and lunging in excitement. Once they've taken a real beating they may be a tad less so, but not always. If they get really torn up and lose their enthusiasm, they may get used for sparring with a coming dog, to give it confidence. But more often they are simply hit over the head with a crowbar or shot.

 

I've seen game-bred Pits, and their less ferocious cousins go at each other - sometimes having to have a breaking stick used to loosen one or the other from its hold. Their tails never stopped wagging. They were amped up, but not angry. It's just what they were bred to do, like a JRT killing rats. They don't hate 'em - they just kill 'em.

 

They aren't fed gunpowder or beaten to make them savage either - more urban hype. I don't like to see dogs tearing each other up either, but I've seen enough of it to know that if the dog isn't game, no amount of "bait" dogs will make it so. Dogs that aren't game aren't kept. Just like Thoroughbreds that don't want to run get sold to other homes or the killers.

 

Getting your dog stolen in an urban environment is a real threat - but it's more often somebody who sells to shady dog dealers for research labs.

[luv2napp]

How terrible!!!

[vickim]

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My post didn't print quite the way I typed it. I was making 2 different points here. First point is that vigilante justice isn't always wrong.

 

The second point--and separate--was to share that story. To answer your question, yes, hunters tracking a dog back to its home and shooting it is most definately wrong. I would've been on the phone to the police, called the newspapers and television stations, tracked the hunters back to their homes and made sure that all neighbors knew what those vile men had done to my dog.