ellabellar

i know.. i wouldn't be able to do it and i'm 22. plus i saw she started posted here in 2006, so started all this with her dogs when she was just 14 or younger?

yes, that is her.. she also has a site called musik or something like that aswell which shows the dogs doing disk flying etc

hi i was bored and going through old posts on some of the boards here and came across ones about this girl who some of you noticed was going by two different names and buying dogs from all kinds of places. well i would just like to say that funny enough my cat actually has a myspace and he has 'her dogs' as friends on their and she posts bulletins about this puppy that she's been wanting.. think she has 5 dogs already and does disk flying with them and agility etc now this puppy is a very unusual colour.. redish merle i think you would call it with two blue eyes.. she found it on the net and the woman who its breeder is has been holding it for this girl since it was about 8wks old i'd say.. well from her bulletins ive read the breeder is still holding it for her, but now the puppy would be at least coming up to 4months old.. now that to me doesn't sound right, no breeder in their right mind would hold a puppy for that long.. they would hold puppies, but after maybe a week or two they would sell them to someone else. i would not think any breeder would hold a puppy for over 2months this girl is very young and i think she has way too many dogs for her age.. i don't even have one and when i move out (i'm 22 btw) yes i do plan on getting a dog and hopefully a border collie, but i have worked around dogs and animals for many years and i never buy from breeders unless i really, really trust them and NEVER EVER from pet shops. my first cat was given to us by a family friend when i was only 4. and scoota was from a rescue called SAFE - Saving Animals From Euthansia, they are not kennels, they're all foster carers. another thing i found out from her the other day is she said she is breeder her dog lyrik as she is coming into heat soon.. now reading over some posts she's said she doesn't breed, so gets me wondering what she really does with her dogs??

agreed. puppies, border collie's or not need guidence.. they need training and her being only 13wks she is not gonna behave just like that, all puppies muck up from time to time, its just a part of them being young, you just have to show them right from wrong. a puppy crate is a great idea, when she's bad, such as the nipping, put her in there. but you have to give her time, when you teach childen, they're not gonna learn just like that, it takes time.

oh no.. poor jin, i hope he gets better real soon