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wsp

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  1. If you have registered 30 pups in a year, they all can't be the same cross from the same parents. I breeder might breed 4 different bitches to his best male to see what will be produced. Two might be on his farm, and the other two might be in his name, but at another farm. Two of the bitches have 8 pups and two have 7 Now he is a high volume breeder right up there with puppy mills. The list isn't about how many years they are using her for breeding. Or maybe they need to come up with another list.
  2. Or this https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12540614_963751623708605_8224558200501052397_n.jpg?oh=c1a59125e30d5561a513b2354e6c2e4d&oe=57360661
  3. I don't either, so why does the ABCA have issue with them. Read the paragraph before the list.
  4. Neither does a pup from a breeder who registered 30 that year
  5. You should ask a lot of questions even if they are only registering 10 a year. There isn't much difference, except the ABCA frowns on the 30 without asking questions.
  6. Yes, you think registration is the same thing as membership.
  7. Sure a working bred dog can do agility, but an agility bred dog can't necessarily be a good working stockdog.
  8. Who said anything about revoking their membership?
  9. If the ABCA is trying to do the best by the border collie, then why not try to discourage breeding for other than working(like agility). Some of the people on the blacklist are dedicated to producing good working dogs. Or why not have a blacklist for those with obedience, agility, or flyball champions so those looking can see who is breeding away from working.
  10. Breeding for agility, obedience, or flyball is not breeding for working ability any more than breeding for a pretty dog is. What if a dog is doing well in Open, but earns a Champion title? Another option so the owners can still compete with their agility/sport dogs would be to give the dog non-breeding status once it earns the agility, obedience, or flyball title,
  11. This is a great idea, instead of singling out and making an example of some.
  12. have no idea how many working border collies are in North America. I do not have access to the registry information. I do know that I see more ads for sport and color bred border collies than those that advertise working dogs. Most I see aren't registered AKC, but ABCA. I think if there was a working requirement on registration for breeding purposes a large number of pet/sport breeders would no longer be able to register their dogs. There would be a much bigger loss of revenue than caused by the blacklist. Maybe another option similar to what has been done before would be to pull registration on those dogs that earn obedience/flyball/agility championship. It's been done for show champion.
  13. At that time, before agility and the other sports it wasn't so easy to get video. Nowadays you can pop out your phone, shoot a video, and send it within minutes.
  14. The microchip is a good idea, but aren't the readers pretty expensive? I know not everybody has one laying around.
  15. Add 2-5.00 to the registration fee. Pay the person who is looking at the videos so much per for their time. Might be 1-3 dollars per video. The people chosen would have to be accepted by the board. They could be asked to list 3 references in the border collie world and/or ABCA members. You would of course have to depend on the owner to be honest about the dog in the video, just like you have to depend on them to be honest about the registration info already. As far as people dropping out, I suspect you will see some of that already from the blacklist. The registry would loose quite a few registries from pet and sport breeders dropping out. I'm not sure of the numbers there, but I suspect it's very high.
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