KelliePup

I love Bart's outrun. The nice taunt lines of animals in motion really speak to me. I just want to grab my sketchbook everytime I see one of those and capture the moment in my style...which just happens to be very realistic.

This one has been bugging me, especially since it seems to be slowly coming back.

When Kellie was in vet ICU, they drained a green mucus-like infection from her lungs daily. Symptoms of this infection included fatigue, disinterest in the world, and uncontrollible wet hacking. I initially thought it was Kennel Cough, but my research says Kennel cough is dry hacking.

So my question is, what could it be, and is there any chance Kellie's immune system is developed enough to combat it with the assistance of anti-bacterial meds, and/or vitamins?

Nicely put Melanie!

I'm suddenly reminded of Jack London's The Call of the Wild. Dogs do what they have to to survive, it's neither good nor bad, that's just the way it is.

I hope she gets well also.

Does her shoulder lock? It sounds like tissue in the shoulder, not just the muscle, is torn and the nerves are dead. If this is the case, the only option I know of is surgery to repair the damaged portions, but its very unlikely she'll have feeling there again.

My knee does something like that (not happy with insurance co, but that's another tyraid :mad: ). You could hope for the best, that time will heal it, but I think you should talk to the vet.

Sorry, I know its not good news, but its all I can do without more info

Always good news, but still, keep an eye on her.

I've never had adverse side affects, but perhaps others have? Or know something I don't (a very real possiblity concerning several things ).

Almost forgot, MichiganBC, check your private messages in top left cornor of main page

Ditto on all accounts. And take a stool sample to the vet when you go.

Wow, for a moment, that sounded like Kellie's first week with me, but she had runs along with everything else. Are you sure she's constipated? Kel would whine cuz she was incontinant and it hurt. I took her to the vet and that's when I found out she had round worms (the shelter said they had dewormed her) and really bad kennel cough that would have killed her. (BTW MichiganBC, Kel was only 1 mo old when I got her. She and her littermates were dumped at the shelter by her mom's owner).

Best of luck, as requested

Kellie and I also started classes, her problem is obeying commands when other dogs are in the room. She wants to play, not work But we're getting better.

I agree with kelpiegirl, go with your gut. If you think you can rehab Sam, do so, or euthanize if you think its best.

Its hard for me to offer advice on this one, Vicki. I wasn't there, I didn't see Sam's total reaction. Sorry, but all I can say is go with what you think is best.

This might sound dumb, but are you sure it wasn't a bite of fear? I've had a couple of animals, both domestic and wildlife rehab, that have bit out of what they thought was self preservation. This one cat I have screams, bites, and scratches any time you get close to her paws b/c some kids continuously yanked on them when she was little (everything just shy of breaking the bone).

Point being, I know some animals bit out of the memory of pain, and its really not intentional at all. Especially if its a sensitive area.

Welcome!

I'm gonna have to sheepishly say get a rescue as well. My Kellie is a rescue, and, aside from a few fixable issues, she's the best dog I've ever had. And she's only 18 mo old.

But if you're dead set on a breeder, go for working, not AKC. Others can elaborate and help you with that.

Personally, I've never been keen on breeding for looks-at all.

As far as sport, the sacrifice to the BC breed is enormous. What is being "created" is no longer a border collie. Eventually genetics will win out, these dogs will lose their herding instinct. I can see intuative reactions becoming slower and these dogs losing some of that intelligence that make this breed so incredible.

By breeding for purly flyball, temperment, agility, ect. what is being created will eventually be an entirely new breed. Its not right to call them border collies, because in the long run, they won't be.

Nice, I'll keep you updated on how Kel's doing.

Yep, I was really impressed. I fly out at Battle Creek, so really its not that far, and I actually live in the eastern portion of Comstock. I'm glad to hear you say its nice though, I was kinda nervous. Are you gonna come to the agility trial they're hosting in October?

Kel and I are going to start attending classes at Taking the Lead Dog Training Center! The actual time and has yet to be confirmed, but like next week. (crossing my fingers on that on )

There we're gonna work on some obedience, play a lot, and agility. I would say Kel's excited to be going, but she's taking a nap right now.

I guess I better get back to studying...

Thx y'all. I guess Kellie's fine for now then, but I'll have to make sure I keep an eye on it. I never was concerned about her hearing now, I was just curious for any future dogs I get.

Here's a question:

When I got Kellie at the shelter this lady came up to me, said she worked BCs on her ranch, and told me not to get a BC with a mostly white face because they were proned to be deaf.

Is this true? Does it make Kel more likely to become deaf when she gets older? Or are her chances the same as every BC

Thx all for the care and concern. I took Kel to the vet yesterday (a little constipated, but okay and back to her charming energetic self)

I also found out why she acted the way she did, and that (cuz I though it was funny and wanted to share w/ everyone) I posted in the general section under the title "How the brat fooled me."

Welcome aboard! Haven't got too much in the way of ideas (I'm just learning a lot of this myself).

Anyway, post some pics! Everyone loves puppies!

(and enjoy the sweet little puppy tempers while you can lol)

We're gonna get it checked out later today. I'm sure the vet will think I'm nuts though, Kellie seems fine this morning

Thx for the advice. It would be new if she did.

Here are her symtoms:

lack of energy (ears and tail droop while she's up, even when she waggs her tail).

Extended periods of sleep

longer than normal urination

and (I just found this out while petting her) her stomach is slightly distended.

Now I'm getting really worried.

She also didn't eat today again.

18 months. She's been sleeping most the day now.

I tried to initiate some play, but I only threw her ball twice before she retreated to her crate with it. She didn't want anything to do with her stuffed sheep, or her tug rope either.

BTW, I'd love it if you could get me in touch w/ some people. I live in Kalamazoo.

Does anyone's BC have days where they want nothing more than to just sit next to you and sleep? Kellie's been doing that all day and I'm starting to worry a bit.

I was wondering that myself. Despite that one where I got a little frustrated (the problem with being unorganized), I was learning a lot. Especially from your post Sue and a few others.

I didn't think it was a waste of time at all.