KelliePup

Wow.......that basically says "forget to important part of hearding genetics; AKC standards are the only important thing." Nature vs Nurture arguement. I can see why you're hesitant. But with the last comment...improving the breed. Who says looks are the important part? Should it not be based on ability? By wanting to breed only for looks, that is changing the breed. It changes the very function the breed is for. I'm cringing at this, and I know others can say it better than I can.

I'd be interested too. Last time I did a search I found one over by Lansing, but I didn't save the info...

Glad you got it worked out Kellie had a problem like that, and turning my back to her brought her in so I could kik the ball again. I would tell her to bring it closer and then just wait until she did. She loved it, it was a bit of a mind game for her to figure out what I wanted her to do. That was about six months ago and she's been doing it ever since. She also likes it when I tell her to leave it, take her back inside, hide her ball, wait about 30 min to an hour (or longer), and then go back outside and tell her "get your ball!" The response and find time are getting quicker all the time Even as the hiding places get increasingly difficult.

Okay...I'm really confused now...I just wasn't sure how they all fit together. I'm really new to this...for some reason, I thought the base fit into the PVC pipe and was either a really tight fit, or was held in with a screw, or even went through a PCV cap. I really need to look at one...

What I was wondering is if the pole is heavier on the bottom than on the top. And how thick is the spike? All my AL stakes bend really easily...

Are you just using it as a weight then Barb? I can see that...sorta. I'm really curious as to how it works...

Can't say anything about bases, but I can tell you about the stakes I use on the windy and rocky plains while I'm backpacking. I learned real quick not to go for AL, they bend, snap, and just don't stay in the ground. Titanium is the way to go for backpackers, but you're interested in pole bases. I'm willing to bet those dogs'll snap and bend those bases at the drop of a hat...I would go with steel...

OH? Ohio BTW, welcome to the boards from Kellie and me.

Kellie did something like that for a while. I finally figured out that she was inticing me into a game played by her rules. The way I combatted that was to sharply away and ignore her until she spat the ball out. Then I would wait a few more seconds before finally turning back, picking up the ball (turning away again if she grabbed it), and throwing it. (or kick if its her soccer ball) Kellie has decided that chasing the ball is better than chewing it. Just something you might want to try. That's almost how I got her recall to improve as well. I think I'm gonna add some puppy squares and tracks into the mix (huge reward!) and see if she continues to improve. Sorry I can't help with the agility jump.

Okay, try these: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cl...9&articleid=729 image from http://beaglesunlimited.com/beaglehealth_demodecticmange.htm has pictures: http://www.asiahomes.com/singaporetpvet/do...y_Singapore.htm *Warning! This Site contains graphic pictures. Some fights, some abuse, some mange. The photos are before and after photos of rescued dogs.* There are a few photos of bad mange though. http://www.compassionforcamden.org/rescues.html Don't suppose you could ask a vet? I know the ones in MT took care of the shelter dogs for free. That would be your best bet I think.

The mange we had was always very red and circular... To me it looks like tat pup's been scratching too much... but maybe... Check out this web page. They have information there. I'm gonna see if I can find other pics...

Thanks Ancira. I'm gonna monitor for a while first and see...

As much as it stings, do you have any iodine? That's real good for cleaning wounds, and it doesn't sting as much as rubbing alcohol (at least in my experience). It also helps with infections. I don't know what to tell you for the car sickness... I can't really help. Kellie loves her car rides. Could it be that Bailey has negative connotations with autos?

What about a combination? Keller, my mentor's GS, would find the victim, bark, return to his handler, bark, and lead his handler back where he got in one last bark. Just a thought.

As I understand it, refind is very important. The dog has to go out, in some instances without their master, find the victim, return and give their signal, and then lead their master back to the victim. I'd teach it anyway. In fact, that's what my mentor in Montana recommended (Still looking for one here in MI)

lol! that's great

It could be a pressure sore. Kellie turned up with several on her legs. I don't know wjat's causing it yet, but I'm on the lookout.

and he has no problem with rescues dogs... Amazing how he got that in when it wasn't really even the subject. The dog wasn't violent, it was threatened, there's a profound difference in that. But to label the breed and rescues as violent? I'm gonna stop now.

vey true Melanie, Kel's and my hugs are different than the primate sense too. I forget sometimes to differenciate btwn human hugs and dog hugs..

Just listened to it. There is a lot of stuff in there I don't agree with, especially the extreme catering to the human needs as far as training is concerned and not the dog. Not the dog's individual personality or breed, but the human's desire. I have to watch my words here or else something really offensive might come out. And what is that about dogs not liking hugs?!? Kel loves hugs! Its the only time she's allowed to jump on me. Katz really hasn't a clue does he? There's just enough truth in that to make you think maybe he's right, and then comes the kick and you're smacking yourself on the forehead for being an idiot. I can think of several polititions and celebrities that do the same thing he does. They actually teach people how to be slimy in public speaking courses...

That's enough to rub anyone who knows anything about dogs the wrong way! Must be great to be able to make money off of the ignorant. That's who he caters to, people who haven't done any research about 1) owning a dog 2) really training a dog, and 3) know nothing about their breed of dog. I can't believe he said that about rescues. Both my Kelsey and Kellie, as young as they were, were both picked up and saved from the jaws of death. Kelsey grew up to be a great family dog with no real training, and Kellie...she needs work, but we're on the right path. Maybe we should flood the network with stories about rescues and their fantastic owners (or at least good owners that are trying really hard ). People need to be educated, then the b@st@rd will be out of buisiness.

Welcome to the boards Claire. Ummm.... it does look an aweful lot like the scaps Kellie used to get when I had hard wood floors, but your pic looks like there is fur growing out of it??? :confused: Not sure what to tell ya...

I don't know of any. My family has removed dozens of ticks from our animals, both domestic and our wildlife rehabers without any diseases problems. Hopefully that can help put you somewhat at ease. Still watch Nellie, but I wouldn't stress.

I have to agree with the aussie thing. My Kelsey was great, but my ex roommate's....left a lot to be desired. She was pleased with him though *shrug*

I'm not sure if she'll ever be the same, chances are she will never be the same though. As for her hiding behind the couch, Kellie does that when she's in pain. I wouldn't force her out, but give her lots of praise and gentle attention when she does. Its been 5 months since Bandit died, and Kellie still isn't the same. She's making some progress, but the shock of losing her best friend has definately taken its toll. Don't know if that helps, but it might give you an idea. That's the best I got right now. Poor little girl