I got Rebel from a breeder in Rineyville, Ky which is between Louisville and Elizebthtown. The name of the farm is Solid Rock Ranch..I got him for a family dog. They have a website. I'm sure she will do references. They train for herding only. She also gets rescue's. He is two now. We have had obedience classes, canine good citzen and agility. He has been so much fun and is smart as a whip !!!! Border collie owners know what I mean. I'd love to have a farm now for him to run in . He get lots of excercise because he has us trained. I hope this info helps !!!! The owner's name is Cindy McCoy. Take a look at her sight.