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Ailsa Justa suggestion for the diarrhea you might try Biosponge from Platinum Performance. It will not conflict with that you are u sing and goes well with probiotic. Basically helps eliminate the toxins produced in the gut. Good luck

Watching from afar I.e. my computer. Very happy to see one of my Lyn' s sons Gear, owned/trained by Candy Kennedy has made the Open semis. My now deceased girl Bet is the grandma of three Nursery finalists, including the CH and Res CH Bet also has two daughters in the Open semis. Quite the family affair. Wish I could have gone to watch this year.

I have purchased Tylan over the counter in a feed store. Works great.

Guess I should have looked farther. They have one ( guess they thought the rest of the litter was not reg) of Lyn's pup and his sire listed as well. They went to a lot of work to publish something which has absolutely nothing to do with their assn.

I just looked at website-just the "studbook' part--thaey have at least one of my dog's there and offspring of another. I wrote to get them deleted, for what that's worth...........

Ray, Wonderful news! I have one of your buffalo horn whistles from several yrs ago. Maybe if either you or Amy are at Zamora or Santa Rosa trials I could show it to you and get a few more? Thanks, you made my day! Carolyn I've recently ordered some buffalo horn from my supplier and the quality of the horn they're getting now is better than I've seen in some time. So I'm going to be making buffalo horn whistles again for anyone that would like one. I've been making whistles for some years and had actually stopped making horn whistles for awhile due to the poor quality of the material that was available. I was the first to make a shepherd's whistle out of Corian, and as far as I know the first to use buffalo horn for a whistle. I'm flexible as far as meeting customers' needs about the shape and size whistle they prefer. Some of the top handlers have been regular customers of mine for years. PM or email me to contact. $40 horn, $30 Corian (includes shipping in US). Thanks. Ray Coapman (raynamy@4fast.net)

Diane, What a lovely tribute to your lovely Tess. Carolyn It's been a long night for us. Tess is now herding sheep in heaven and no doubt running the show by now. And begging sushi from our Heavenly Father. Tess died in my arms last night. As yo know, she had cancer and congestive heart failure. We gave her herbal supplements which slowed down the cancer growth but there is no medicine which can fix a aging heart. It was a matter of time and we knew it. It still was hard. I am not going to write much as the tears are falling now but will post on my blog, probably tomorrow. She was wobbly after her dinner but managed to beg some of my filet mignon leftover and then my last carrots. She looked more tired and her legs began to splay out so I put her on her bed and cuddled next to her. She leaned hard into me, pressed her nose next to my face and died. It was quick, no pain. Good bye to the love of our lives, the dogs who gave us a new lifestyle, who taught us how to laugh and live, who took care of me during my heart surgeries, who was a gift from God when I prayed for a child when we lost ours (we laughed on how he did hear us and what we got for our prayers), the dog who carried me on her broad shoulders and took me to the Nationals, who left me wonderfuls pups to carry on for her and mostly of all, the dog who healed our hearts. Good bye, My Beloved Tess.

Maja Now I see what you meant. I am guessing she thought Buzz would get them around the post without her holding her crook out there. Sheep were unpredictable so maybe she thought the crook would make it worse. I havent talked with her much about her runs, except that she did tell me she was very proud of them. Fun to be able to see videos of these runs isn't it?

I saw the run and Suzy did not want to give up. I suspect what went through her mind( but I did not ask her I if am correct in my thinking) is that she knew it would not be a winning run with that ewe and Buzz came so close to winning it last year , she knows she has the dog to do it if luck is with her. The only time she will stop at this level is for the dog's welfare. In the Final round it is a 30 min course and she sent Buzz to water twice ( it is allowed and but time keeps ticking) , as it was tough going and hot. The time in the water most likely cost her getting the one last ewe seperated in the internatl shed. She has trained both my dogs and I can tell you she thinks of the dog first, the placing second and her "wished" third. As for the Qualifying run I heard several top Open handlers there tell her that there were not many dogs who could have handled that bad ewe. That ewe broke for the first time before Buzz even left the post, and it never stoped testing him the whole run. Overall the sheep were super tough and the course challenging. Lots of Rt and DQ . I will have to fess up that I may be "biased" as I own Buzz's dam ( not when she had Buzz, but in her later yrs) . Bet is now 13 and retired. However I am not barn blind-Buzz really is that good.

<<<<<<<<<<First and foremost ALL my Border Collies WORK ON MY FARM WITH GOATS AND DUCKS (and cows and horses). >>> Please don't "work" your dogs on horses. No good can come from that practice. <<<<<<<,My dogs work for me and no one else. I do not need to parade them around in a trial field to "prove" they are worthy. I know darn well they can go out and bring back a stray/stubborn goat or help me round them up to put them back in their pen.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since you seem to have never attended a ISDS style trial, just fyi, the dogs do not "parade" at these events. They walk calmly to the post, off lease, until they are sent on their way , many times 600 + yds to pick up sheep. No parading involved. The weakest trial dog can "help round up a stray /stubborn goat and pen it. Your example does not paint a picture of a true work dog. These same trial dogs at the ranch. Clearly you are going to go on breeding dogs they way you are presently, but really by trying to invalidate a true working Border Collie to make yourself feel better is not the way to impress any future buyers.

Thanks Mark, would like to know his opinions on this new subject. I heard Dr Neff speak at the USBCHA Sheepdog Finals he he does aoppear to be a thorough person.

To brndlbc I do not have a clue what you are tying to say with your statement. I was replying to another poster who commented that working Border Collie people seem to be in denial to those who chose to basterdize the breed by searching for other traits besides those which contribute to working stock. I was agreeing with that poster that "we" with working Border Collies are well aware of the sports breeding going on right now. Nothing more, nothing less. That said, I have nothing to "get over". I have working Border collies, bred to do what they do. I have no fear my dogs wil end up another breed. I do believe one of main arguments in this thread is the fear that the breed can be changed to another if care is not taken in one's breeding program. If you think it can't be done, watch any AKC dog show on tv and take a look at your "Black Rhino", their version of the Border Collie. You get over it.

Sadly we realize all too well that Border Collies are being bred for "sports dogs" at this moment in time.