we bought our 1st Ryder from a backyard breeder and I was glad to get one because of the breeders that wont let them go unless you work them on stock you cant convince me Ryder isnt as happy here and looked after as he would be working stock we do have 8 cows but I decided to obedience train him first and I am showing him in agility the pup I am waiting for is from a breeder and is a merle I show obedience and agility and I also have a aussie and they all live in our house with our other dogs boxer, afghan hound and bluetick hound