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  1. bcnewe2

    ABCA ?

    Thank u!
  2. bcnewe2

    ABCA ?

    Does the ABCA give out limited registration papers? Like a no breeding listing? TIA
  3. bcnewe2

    info on dog attacks

    Predatory drift When I started working dogs long ago I bought a dog from my trainer at that time. He was a huge male probably 60lbs. Maybe 18 months old. I was as green as they come. This dog and i didn't jell at all. I was miserably trying to control his aggression on sheep because he was trying to kill the sheep. i lacked any authority towards this dog and I'm sure, looking back on it I probably increased his aggression by holding him back from the sheep all the time. I was afraid of him. An experienced stock man was interested in buying him, he asked to work him. I said OK hesitantly, but please be careful because I'm not buying any sheep today. The dog grabbed a hold of a sheep by the neck and began shaking his head in a predatory aiming to kill manner. The man stepped in and the dog turned on him, grabbed his leg. He began shaking it in the same manner as he had the sheep neck. The man was savvy enough to stand still. I hopped the fence in a panic and had a riding crop with me. The dog didn't let go till I accidentally hit him in the eye with the whip. I would call that predatory drift alright! I didn't keep the dog. BTW the man had on winter coveralls and jeans underneath. I asked if he was hurt badly. He said he didn't know and he wasn't going to look till he got home. I'm sure if he wasn't bleeding he was severely bruised. The only thing that might have saved punctures was all the layering he had on and that he froze when the dog grabbed on. He said "And that's why you don't carry a gun when you train dogs." The breeder took him back and i hear he went on to run a huge cattle ranch out west. I know I never put him on sheep again. Any dog can be set off, but the damage a pit type dog can do is tremendously different than 95% of dog breeds. Why risk it? who knows if you got a good one or bad and I'm not willing to risk myself or my family. we will never know what set these dogs off but their owner payed the price. Do i blame the breed? No just the stupid people breeding them. A dog can't help being or doing what it was created to do. If you can't control whatever that instinct is you have no business owning said dog.
  4. It's funny, I have 5 dogs at the moment. 3 inside and my guardians out. They all get along. Some play with each other some don't. But if I took them to a daycare type setting I have a feeling they would feel a bit betrayed by me. I think I'd find them all, even the lgds sitting in a corner waiting for my return. My dogs don't interact with other dogs. They have their own pack. And yes, I know I'm lucky to have a "pack" of dogs. They are 2 different breeds, but I definitely know the breed snobs they are. Mine just don't think it's fun or polite to interact with any other dogs. They aren't mean, they just don't exist to them. They don't fight but won't be picked on either. I've never been a fan of doggy daycare. Since I work at home and see what my dogs are up to most of the time, I realize they are perfectly content to laze around till it's time to play (more stock work for them but they would just as easy adapt to play or other dog sports). They are as lazy as I need them to be. My whole point is, I really think some dog people, like sport moms over do it. Keeping their dogs busy all the time and in the end they make busy dogs. Just my 2cents Cheers
  5. I guess I'm confused. She already does a bunch with this dog. Only place it acts out is daycare? Why is she supposed to do a bunch more stuff with her dog when all she sees is a content well mannered dog. Answer seem obvious to me. Quit daycare. And I thought I read the only time she goes to daycare is for her cleaning crew. Address things as they come. It's not about quantity. It's about quality. Maybe i missed some key thing?
  6. Haven't been on the boards forever! But I popped on to have a look see. I didn't throughly read all the answers so excuse me if anyone has suggested this. 18 months is hard. But not that hard. She sounds perfect at home. Why not take her on a short walk in the am. And a short walk in the pm. If you're home through the day let her hang with you. On the days u have your house keeper come (gah if only!) Put her in the Kennel and let her be. She is perfectly able to get used to a cleaning person if it's a routine thing. Maybe stay a while the first time to make sure she behaves. After that off u go. Have the cleaning person toss her a treat as she leaves your place and you should come home to a happy dog.
  7. Do u know he's been abused? I have head shy dogs. Again, they are related but I know no one or thing has hit them. They're just a bit handler over them shy. No abuse. If you're sure he's been abused I would try to erase that from your head. That way you look at him normally instead of trying to analyze why. Move forward from this minute. He will get over his issues if time is given and routines are established. In my rescue circles we say... 3 days 3 weeks 3 months before you get to see hints of your actual dog. And well over 6-8 months to be "home"
  8. I have a 1 year old pup. I bred her. She is a happy camper and has never been abused or neglected. Her best friend is her momma. She happily did "tricks" as a wee one. Sit, paw, stay etc. Few months ago she decided she isn't going to do tricks, they are horrible and not worth any treat. She is also very wiggy about me putting my arm around her. I chalked it off to oh well, she'll out grows it. Interestingly enough she is out growing it, I don't demand what I don't need and no matter what she must do the important stuff (recall, not get into sheep or chickens etc.) So I spoke to another littermate puppy owner and her pup is the exact same way. Long short of it. .... if u don't make a big deal out of it I think it will fade and, it can be genetic. Other litter mates aren't acting like this. I also don't usually give her a chance to run from those boggy things. I just toss the treat close and walk away. If they run hide, they are self rewarding their fears. Place them in a crate, happily so it's a good place for all not an escape from the boggy or you. If u worry they worry.
  9. bcnewe2

    Llama Management

    When I put 1 rams together I put them in a space where it is to small to really run at each other. Llamas are different "boxers". If you have well trained dogs you might use a dog to work the llamas enough that they worry about the dogs more than each other. Another way is give them each some sheep. keep them close but apart. Llet them bond to their sheep, change the sheep out for a while to where they each have each others then put the whole kit and caboodle together. They sometimes can get so worried about their charges that they forget to fight. Time and space is your friend. They don't have to like each other they just have to not fight!
  10. bcnewe2

    Lyme Disease-Billy has it

    Sorry double post
  11. bcnewe2

    Lyme Disease-Billy has it

    I don't know where u live but Seresto collar didn't work for us this year on our LGD. I tick piked nightly with 20 or more ticks. She was on Doxy 2x's. Is bravecto then month pill? That is what finally worked for us. We live near St. Louis MO
  12. I don't get to read the board very much these days ut moved to post on this one. Geonni, I have 4 very nicely bred border collies. We live on a sheep farm. If I'm working (job not sheep) or otherwise busy the dogs get outside often but don't always get to work stock. Faye and her daughter would really really like to work sheep everyday. Everyday they go and check out the sheep and often times I see them look longingly at their sheep. But when called off the fence they come running over and start playing. Either with each other or with me. They are so happy the shine. They smile and they gunuinely love their life. Sheep or not they are happy girls! Once Maid gets used to her life I think you will be pleasantly suprised at how happy she will be sheep or no sheep. Or sheep once in a while. Just suggesting you give thought to you being a very good match for both your dogs. Sometimes it's ok to be selfish and do what feels good to you. A happy you makes happy dogs!
  13. I was thinking about all that has been discussed here for a bit. Cultural might not be the word I would use. More like neighborhood rules. I think Chene's dog park is a free for all dog park. She acts or does what others do at that park. Other neighboring (dog or not) parks might be totally different. People tend to act in kind depending on where they are. I have a pack of dogs. They play quite well with each other. Like family kids. But they dont know other dog rules and probably wouldnt play without knowing what's expected of them. Single dogs have to adapt to the dogs around them if they want to interact with any dogs. An ever changing situation for sure. I could never let my dogs interrupt another's fetch game. The other dog wouldn't have a chance...our home rules are whoever gets it ownes the ball. The poor dog that they joined would never get the ball again. So if my dog did "steal" the ball I'd make them stop. Smile and move on. I don't feel the need to appoligize. It's just a game. I doubt most dogs would join our rough game but if they did and won the ball mine wouldn't try to fight them. They'd just run that much harder and faster the next throw. As far as the pittie sniffing butts, I have a feeling since you said your dog really didn't mind, that it was a bit of breed "scare" for you. If it had been a young not reputation ruined pitty, but a friendly smaller mutt, you probably wouldn't have been rude (if you truely were) I can and do smile and say in one way or another F-off if i feel the need and the person or kid never realizes what happened until it's over. I think that comes with age. Lol My dogs, even the jerky one will tolerate a lot from strang dogs, I expect that. But I would surely intervene before my dogs ever decided they had enough of a rude dog. They expect that of me. I am blessed to have acreage and availability of other places that I don't need a leash. Reading this long thread reminds of just how lucky I am. Btw My dogs fetch game is very odd. As I said, the first one to get the ball "wins" but the jerk dog (who still thinks he's alpha) can never get there fast enough to fetch the ball. So my 2 other fetching girls run around with the prize for a moment then drop it at Mick's feet. No one but him returns the ball. Ever! The young one just sits on my feet and watches. She doesn't know the rules quite yet so she doesn't want to play. Although she does play if I take her out alone. IMO if my dog wasn't just about bomb proof I probably wouldn't take him to places where we could get in trouble. Just easier that way.
  14. For a short while it wouldn't hurt to keep a short check cord on the fighter(s). That way whoever provokes the spats can be given a quick yank off the other dog and a correction at the same time, if you see it happen. I wouldn't act all freaked out or upset or sad for the loser. Just matter of fact "knock it off ya jerks" a check cord is maybe an 8 inch light line you just clip to his collar and leave on. I'm sure he suprises himself with his little power trips or quick snarks. He could just be responding to hormones and then look and feel suprised at himself. Also the other more dominant dogs maybe be provoking it a bit feeling his change in hormones resting of position. They could be reminding him where he belongs.