CJ

That's great infomation and accepted with many thanks. I didn't know about this problem as it's not in the border collie books I have. I am getting the puppy I take desexed as well as Obi-Wan the X and of course Lewis as enough is enough. Considering getting my husband done too. Maybe that will give me abetter deal for bulk. I only want to let the puppies go to homes that will get them desexed. Have learnt alot from this message board. Thanks again. Candice Jade xxx