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Hey all!! Haven't posted for some time now regarding Ruger's eyes. If you refer to this post..... this is what we were going through..... http://www.bordercollie.org/boards/index.php?showtopic=34434&do=findComment&comment=433155 And his eyes have been pretty unchanged..... UNTIL today...... I woke up and he was squinting in the eye that had been resurfaced.... Which yesterday he spent a lot of time outside in the sun and we never thought anything of it. I put his drops in and he went and laid down. I checked later in the day and what was there? Those same "oily" looking spots that we had removed that ulcerated before (on his right eye) So he is squinting most of the day today. His left eye has the small whiteish deposit on it kinda spotted that has been there for a few months now. Being changed off a food that contained ANY chicken has helped him considerably, but I think so did not being out in the sun. I will attach photos tonight if I can get some if not in the next few days. I am thinking sunglasses or "doggles" might have to be an option for him when he goes outside. If this is how his eyes are going to respond he can't spend the whole day every day living in the house when its sunny out. I feel bad enough for the guy already and if it comes down to him not being able to go outside, what kind of life is that? I also think I am going to book in with the very expensive eye specialist and maybe he will tell me something different than my vet already has or something to do about it..... Any suggestions?

HELLO AND WELCOME!! When was his last bout of gastritis and what were his/their symptoms? Was it bad enough he/they had loose bloody stool? Or was it mild? Did they have the bouts at the same time? I have never seen a dog actually get that poisoning either.... I'm glad you caught that before it was to late!!

I second that!!! And a very lucky dog as well!!! You can get DNA testing done. My friend got it done on her dog just to see if it worked. It said what the dog was right. BUT I've had a few others do it and said that isn't what there dogs were. It can pick up genetic markers from its origins as well..... So might be worth a try. Here they are 75$ Canadian to get them done. Good luck and I think he is a cutie!! I agree with the retriever or collie in that tail and those ears!!

could be.... Ontario has a lot of irresponsible breeders...... Although he did contact me back when I said I had a problem with my dog that I've had for 3 years in May. He remembered me, which was a shock. I asked about anyone else presenting with the same eye issue Ruger has and he said no one reported any. Which two of his siblings are on this forum and their eyes are also fine. I was shocked her replied back to tell you the truth....

Hey all, We've been back to the vets for a week check up today. His eye is still cloudy like it was when it was opened. To me I think it looks more cloudy but not to sure.... The photo I took of his eye and posted when it was opened has no flash and was with an iphone. This photo and the first photos that were taken were with high quality cameras so you can see more detail. We added in optimmune eye ointment to see if it will take some of that cloudyness away. I agree with the above comment that it is probably a lipid deposit, which is what he said it probably was and it probably wasn't genetic. BUT I wanted to search around to find out any info as most owners who care would. To clear up he had the resurface because he had an ulcer on that x after 3 months of having the x show up. SO Here is the eye tonight, I put the ointment after I took the photo. I will keep you ladies/gents updated on the progress. His diet is also being changed to a low fat diet as well. ALSO I spoke with his "breeder" and no one else has reported any dogs with eye issues. Also Juno and Coby are his brothers with the same parents and their eyes are fine as well.

I would be cautious to. When ever I bring a new dog in my house it is ON LEASH for the first at least two weeks. Never left alone with any other pet. I have a rescue with us that I took in (this august will be 2 years) and my other two dogs still pick on him. He is the weakest link (bad genetics and a few health problems) I never put him in the situation when no one is home nor not paying attention to be attacked by the other dogs. That just isn't intelligent. He was my responsibility and I have to try and keep him as safe as I can since I rescued him. BUT If it ever came down to him or my other two, I would have to pick my other two. They were here first, the house worked with just the two of them. I would sit down with the people who actually own the dogs in the house and have a "group" meeting. Everyone needs to have there opinions heard. Dog parks with aggressive unstable dogs will do nothing to help the dog unless its on leash. You can't control what "strangers" dogs do at dog parks either. People wonder why other dogs especially smaller ones are "accidently" killed by other dogs..... right here is plain as day owner is not being responsible and neither are the other dog owners in your house. It's a sad thing no one notices but you. Have a meeting and try to talk some sense in to these people. Sorry you and your dog don't feel safe that is no way to live.

Thank you for your help everyone!!!

Yes I have noticed he is no longer a "responsible" breeder. When we first got him he would always reply to what ever it was I had to say. Photos or anything. But that was 3 years ago now. When I mentioned Ruger's bad habits to him he never replied back. Ah well what can you do. He needed a home either way, I'm glad he got a responsible owner not ended up in some pound or wherever puppies that don't sell go. But its a learning experience. I bought my GSD of Kijiji and I'm still in contact with his breeder even after she moved to England 3 years ago. I have to send her Christmas cards and all of that. She sends him cards in the mail and everything. These were the first purebred dogs we've ever had that have had papers or anything of the sort. It's all a learning experience.... I usually just rescue dogs never buy them. I have two I bought and one rescue right now, of dogs that is. Of rescues in total.... 10 rescues in this house at the moment of all kinds.

He is doing well I will take another photo and show you guys. He has a recheck tomorrow just to see how his progress is going. I notice when he's outside it is always open, when he is inside sometimes he squints, the air in here is dry. BUT He played frisbee the other day for the first time in a month and he was able to see the disk no matter where it went. So that is a plus also Thank you for asking

Great job!! Great looking dog to!! Those skirts are used in tennis, they have built in shorts underneath You can get various different styles, colors and materials. I own a pair they are very comfortable as well I wore them when I played tennis and competed a dog before.

To lay like this in SOME breeds is completely normal. I have seen mastiffs do it, almost all puppies can do that, corsos and labs. My collie who (I believe) is related to your collies also does it and he has showed no ill effects in his hips, gait nor physical working ability. If my GSD were to lay like that... there would INDEED be hip dysplasia as well as other problems to say the least.

Thank you to a member here for pointing out this post. I also have a Dennis Nutt dog. He is everything we could ask for in a collie (he will be 3 next month) I emailed him when we first got him and he replied and I sent pictures and everything. But after that he never replied to me again. Ruger is an exceptional worker, has wonderful drive and is very willing to please. He is also very intelligent (as this breed should be) I got to see both parents also at the family home (near the Indian reserve) After buying him I saw more ad's for puppies up and I asked about that..... he has (had at this time) 11 dogs. I haven't seen any posts for puppies from him for quite some time I kijiji search sometimes just to see what I can find. BUT Ruger has developed fatty deposits on his eyes..... if you look in the "photos" section on this forum you will see photos of Ruger. I was looking at your one boy and he does resemble Ruger when he was smaller also. Ruger has no allergies so far seasonal nor food. Hope to hear back from you!

I don't know anyone, I tried emailing Dennis but he never responded. And I cant' remember exactly the way to the place I got Ruger from. It was near an Indian reserve an hour from here at least. (we have two of them near me) I suppose I could mail him a letter but if he doesn't respond to my emails then I'm not thinking he will respond to a letter I've mailed either......

haha that's awesome!! Still somewhat related!!! The vet doesn't think its inherited just something he has, but can't hurt having a look around

OK So I just realized there is a name on his pedigree from this site! SO maybe there is someone else on here!!!