Julie thank you for your reply...and after I read more posts about others having their dogs exhibit the EIC I too thought then sounds like my dog DOES NOT have EIC. Her mother's owner told me my dog was the very intense puppy out of the litter. And yes we do stay inside a lot during the summer and when we are out we do not venture to far from the house/bathtub. There are 3 lakes at the county off leash park I mentioned in a post but they have such a tick problem and tall grass that I dont' take her there. Not to mention she is just now wading alonog the edge of the lakes with her frisbee...and will trot along a short bit but she will not get in full body. She did jump into a pool the end of May...she paddled back to the stairs...was only out maybe 3 feet. She had dropped her frisbee in the water, we pulled it out, and then moments later she jumped in. Still can't figure that one out. We are at the beach now and have been trying to get her to trot in the waves but the noise and motion of the ocean puts her in chase mode if we get near the water...so have been working on being further away and practicing her sit and alternate with walking. She can be a bit timid with new situations but she LOVES the beach from day one! We purchased a kiddie pool last summer and have tried to get her to go in without water, then water, but she doesn't have any interest so...think I need to keep trying to introduce it to her. We are going to a canine camp in a couple weeks where there will be many other border collies, other dogs as well and they have lakes on their property so I'm hoping she will enjoy the doggie vacation and see other dogs going into the water, etc to help build her confidance.