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  1. Thank you! I don't think I'm expecting too much too quickly from him, I'm VERY happy with 99% of what he's done in these short weeks BUT if he is always going to be an attacker of stock, then it wasn't going to be worth it to keep training him. Like I said, I've never had a dog with this attitude before and just needed some input on him. After reading responses and working the dog the past 2 or 3 days, he has made vast improvement so I'm even more happy with him and hopeful he can get past this. We did make him a housedog as soon as we brought him home. When we got him, he was scared stiff, didn't know his name or any commands and didn't really listen either. We started working on all these issues before letting him see the stock. Changed his name, taught him to come, sit, down and stay. Angie was one of the trainers I contacted. We spoke back and forth a few times, then when I tried to sign up for a lesson (she was having one a month for March and April), never heard back again. I will try emailing her again about the April date. She is the closest of the trainers I found here so that's nice in a way- if I could get her to answer. Thank you all again. Hopefully in a month or two we'll be totally past the attacking and doing well working.
  2. I thought I gave my location- maybe it was in the response that disappeared? We are in central Oklahoma. I've only found 3 trainers within an hour of me, and like I said, they seem more interested in either selling me a started dog or taking my dog for a month or so and then me picking him up. :-( Not really what I want. I'd love to find someone let me pay for a lesson or 2 a week until we get a good start on him. I read through the review section and can't find any reviews here, or anywhere actually which I think is odd, on that DVD - 1st Steps in BC Sheepdog Training. Anyone seen it or know anything about it? It sounds like a nice, well rounded video from what the makers of it describe.
  3. Only about 2 1/2 weeks. I think he's showing a lot of ability and he's definately willing to learn and listen. I will work on getting someone to video us and maybe that will give you a better idea of his nature.
  4. That's exactly what we've been working on - backing him off. I truely think if you turned him lose with a flock of goats or sheep, he wouldn't even try to herd them, I think he'd immediately run out and start attacking one sheep/goat at a time until they were all dead or until he got tired. It is somewhat hard keeping him off the sheep for the simple fact that if I look away for 1/2 a second, he's running in to attack. I'm not talking dive-bys, I'm talking he methodically runs up, grips and will not release unless I smack him with the pole (I use a lunge whip). I will try to get someone to video tape us this week and post the video. Maybe someone will have some insight. Does this describe a sheep/goat killer or are some young dogs like this? Will he ever be able to be trusted? Like on an outrun to fetch, will he attack again when he realizes I'm not there on top of him?
  5. Well, I typed up a somewhat long response and it apparently disapeared into cyber space. Thank you all for the insight. I'm glad to have some hope of him coming around and have to say he was a LOT better today! Stayed out wider, listened to me when I told him to go around to get behind. He may not have stayed behind for very long, but at least he listens and tries to be a good boy and would go back again when told. I'm truely amazed at how fast he has picked everything up, much smarter and more willing to please than previous dogs - if we could just get that want to attack attitude under control he'd be perfect! I am thinking of ordering the video - First Steps in Border Collie Sheepdog Training. It says it has a dog in it that sounds similar to him and shows how they worked through it. Any reviews on this video? I have contacted 3 or 4 trainers that I could find in my general area but they all seem only interested in taking the dog for 4-6 weeks, training it, then me pick it up and that's not really something I'm interested in. I've read on here in other threads that some of you are able to go with your dog for lessons and I'd definately be open to that! We are in central Oklahoma if you have any suggestions. Thank you all again!
  6. We acquired a 2yo working bred BC recently. He had not been started by his previous owners but had been kept in a yard where he could see cows. He is out of good working stock and seems to be a great dog in most respects. I've started 2 other BCs for working on our ranch before but they were both pretty quiet workers, no grip unless REALLY needed, etc. This dog is the total opposite and I'd like some input before I just start trying one thing after the other to get him where I want him. First off, we do have cattle but for the most part, we rarely work them. We also have dairy goats and plan on getting a small flock of sheep (which is why I got him). The goats need brought up for milking and taken back out daily and the sheep will be kept in a paddock at night and turned out to pasture during the day, so again, they will need worked daily. I started this dog a few weeks ago and while I have made progress, it is still a problem- he is WAY too aggressive with the goats. He is a very confident dog and isn't gripping for lack of confidence. He is like an alligator, takes hold and won't let go. This is a BIG problem. I have tried making it quite clear that's not acceptable behavior, and like I said, we've made some progress, but if I don't stay right in the middle of him, he will attack. Is this just going to be him? Do I need to be more firm? (I am worried about turning him off completely if I push too much more). Is he just destined to be a cow dog rather than a sheep/goat dog? Also, he is still trying to always get to the heads rather than balance them. Is this going to take longer with a dog like this or is there more to it? Thanks!
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