Ugh. I think I know someone who bought a puppy from these guys (says he got the pup from a breeder who breeds "lower drive" dogs). Sure, he's trim (as are his kids), but it was, frankly, obvious from the start that he had no idea how to take care of the dog. I've seen them three or four times, and the dog was more and more unstable and out of control every time they went through the local dog park. It looks like he's spent no time bonding with him at all. The first time I saw him, he was getting intimidated by the Big Scary Older Dogs and ran to <i>me</i> instead of his owner, he stood by and did @! all.
Haven't seen them in a while, also, and that alone makes me sad and anxious. : ( I wouldn't trust this breeder's judgment at all.