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  1. To see the contract for the HEF EAOD research project, please go to the Deafness Research page on the HEF website, scroll to the bottom, and click on the first of the listed documents.
  2. What on earth makes you think “the HEF still thinks MDD/OS are one and the same with University of Helsinki”? What does that even mean? The HEF does not now think, and never has thought, that MDD/OS are one and the same with the University of Helsinki. I think we’ve taken this topic about as far as we can. I’ve done my best to explain to you why the HEF is not able to make a recommendation about the test in the absence of hard data. I understand that you disagree. So there we are.
  3. No, it won’t, and you know why. You know as well as I do that the handful of dogs whose results you’re aware of wouldn’t come within a mile of statistical significance. Yes, MDD/OS does have numbers, if by numbers you mean they know how many dogs they’ve tested, and how many of them have 0, 1 or 2 copies of the markers they’re using. But they don’t have numbers correlating those test results to to those dogs’ hearing/deafness history in any meaningful way. If you don’t believe me, ask them next time you’re in touch with them. Don’t you think if they had data supporting the validity of their test they would be only too happy to publicize it? And without that data, HEF is in no position to vouch for the accuracy of their test. We all fervently wish we had a basis on which HEF could update its earlier statement regarding the test. But wishing does not make it so.
  4. How many are “lots”? What makes you think Optimal Selection has this data? Have they told you they have it?
  5. What HAS been seen for the past 4 years? I asked you what concrete information/data you have and you haven’t replied.
  6. What makes you think HEF has been “sitting still” and not “reaching out”? What makes you “sure they have many of the answers [we’re] seeking”?
  7. Well no, Karen, we can't say this because we don't know it to be true. We have no data which would support a statement that the test is proving to be uncannily accurate with "at risk" dogs. If you have such data, I can understand why you would want to make it known. How many of the 426 (source?) dogs with 2 copies do you actually know to be deaf prior to 8-9 years of age? What knowledge do you have of the hearing status of the rest of those 426 dogs? It would be very much to the liking of the HEF to actually help the dogs and breeders. That is our purpose for existing. We just do not currently have a basis for making claims about the accuracy of the test, and no one regrets that more than I do.
  8. I couldn’t agree more. Wish I had something to report, but I don’t. Dr. Lohi has stated an intention to publish what they have now, but it hasn’t happened.
  9. White tail tips are not uncommon in dogs, and there's a good reason for it. As I understand it, melanin moves outward from the spinal column during the dog's development, mostly pre-natal but also post-natal. (That's why the black on a dog may increase after birth, but the white never does.) So the regions more remote from the spinal column are more likely to be white (paws, tail tip, even the chest and abdomen), because the melanin "flow" stops before it reaches that far. Also, the term "gay tail" doesn't refer to white on the tail tip, but to a tail that is held high, rather than parallel to or lower than the spinal column. Old time shepherds (and even some modern ones) don't like to see a gay tail on a border collie, because a seriously working border collie will be carrying its tail low.
  10. There's an article called "Understanding the Multi-Drug Resistant Gene Mutation in Border Collies" on the ABCA Health & Education Foundation's website that y'all may find to be helpful: https://bordercolliefoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Understanding_MDR1_Jul-2020.pdf This is the meat of the explanation: I'm not sure that any variant of the "dominant/recessive" terminology is meaningful in this case. Due to the function that the gene performs, I would say that the wild (normal) allele is doing its thing, which is to produce the protein, and the mutated allele is doing its thing, which is not to produce the protein. It's not a case of the normal allele masking or suppressing the effect of the mutated allele.
  11. Is there something that causes her to try to break out? A thunderstorm, or a high-pitched noise, or something like that? Will she do it when you're home, or only when there's nobody at home with her? I understand your not wanting to think of her being locked up in a crate, but that is really the best answer. Pathetic as a dog in a crate may look, most of them really like their crates once they get used to them. if you can trust her when you're at home, you can have her out then for quality time. If she's reluctant to go in her crate at first, you might start feeding her meals in there. I don't think an electric fence would contribute anything at all -- I think crating her is the answer. BTW, I am moving this thread down to General Border Collie Discussion, because this forum is for training border collies to work livestock.
  12. That list of directors IS current. If it looks wrong to you, hit the refresh button to make sure your computer or other device updated to the newest version.
  13. Sharing a message from Bob Stephens, President of the Canadian Border Collie Association: Fellow sheep dog enthusiasts; The Canadian Border Collie Association is pleased to announce the release of the documentary film Amanda Milliken In Conversation. The film is an intimate portrait which offers a rare glimpse into Amanda’s thinking on breeding, training and handling sheep dogs. Amanda tells us how she got started in her career and we join her on the field as she trains her current young dog and talks about her approach to building the partnership that has made her a winner over and over again. She recounts the story of the ‘dog wars’ - the dramatic fight to preserve the working Border collie, a fight that resulted in the establishment of Canada’s breed registry; the Canadian Border Collie Association. She shares memories and anecdotes, sometimes humorous, from the early years of herding in Ontario; how trial competition refined the skills of both dogs and handlers and how the Kingston Sheep Dog Trials grew from a humble event in her back field to one of the most important herding trials in North America. Amanda Milliken In Conversation is an entertaining and educational portrait of one of our sports’ most accomplished members. It is full of gems for sheep doggers of all levels. We invite you to share this film with your members on your website and social media pages. It can be found here: https://www.canadianbordercollies.org/showcase-amanda Sincerely, Bob Stephens President, Canadian Border Collie Association
  14. Sharing a message from Bob Stephens, President of the Canadian Border Collie Association: Fellow sheep dog enthusiasts; The Canadian Border Collie Association is pleased to announce the release of the documentary film Amanda Milliken In Conversation. The film is an intimate portrait which offers a rare glimpse into Amanda’s thinking on breeding, training and handling sheep dogs. Amanda tells us how she got started in her career and we join her on the field as she trains her current young dog and talks about her approach to building the partnership that has made her a winner over and over again. She recounts the story of the ‘dog wars’ - the dramatic fight to preserve the working Border collie, a fight that resulted in the establishment of Canada’s breed registry; the Canadian Border Collie Association. She shares memories and anecdotes, sometimes humorous, from the early years of herding in Ontario; how trial competition refined the skills of both dogs and handlers and how the Kingston Sheep Dog Trials grew from a humble event in her back field to one of the most important herding trials in North America. Amanda Milliken In Conversation is an entertaining and educational portrait of one of our sports’ most accomplished members. It is full of gems for sheep doggers of all levels. We invite you to share this film with your members on your website and social media pages. It can be found here: https://www.canadianbordercollies.org/showcase-amanda Sincerely, Bob Stephens President, Canadian Border Collie Association
  15. Yes, that’s the 2008 French study I was referring to.
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