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#1 Riika


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:02 PM

When I first joined this forum in 2013, I had never heard of the ABCA, "The Dog Wars"(this book, wow! If you haven't read it, do so ASAP.) "Barbie Collies," and had no clue that a divide between working/ABCA and show/AKC existed. I thought a BC was a BC and they herded sheep. Honestly, I also knew zilch about what the AKC has done to hundreds of breeds, and also never heard of genetic testing dogs. I had a half BC at the time, and was making future plans for adding a purebred, registered, BC from a well known(and greatly disliked by members here) AKC breeder.

Lurking on this forum, and reading old threads, I quickly found out that there is a huge difference between working and show dogs, and the two are not interchangeable in the tasks they are bred to do. 

Though I sometimes haven't liked the atmosphere of this forum, the heated debates and personal attacks(which I got sometimes) the cold welcomes and critiques to clueless members who dared to have any connection to the AKC or say anything positive about it, I now understand how it is, especially since I read The Dog Wars. Some of you here spent tons of money, countless hours, stress, sweat and tears, fighting against the AKC and I can now understand why your feelings are as strong as they are against them. 

I now have two working Border Collies, one ABCA, one not, and I wouldn't trade them for anything that the AKC produces. If it hadn't been for this forum, I would probably be very disappointed in my Barbie Collies that are beautiful but can't move cattle three feet. 

My current 8 month old, with no herding training whatsoever but operating on instinct alone, just helped me catch a goat this morning, by bringing it right to me(from 5 feet away, but the stupid thing kept running every time I reached for it!) and holding it there until I could get ahold of it.

I want to thank you for changing my mind and making me much happier now than I imagine I would have been had I gone the other route. 


I know some of you despair of every teaching us newbies anything, and feel like just giving up, but don't! Just remember me, one of your "converts!" 



Again, thanks so much! 


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#2 Sue R

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:36 PM

I'm one of those "not always very nice people" and appreciate your understanding of how and why many of us feel so strongly as we do. It's our passion and concern for the dogs.

Thank you for speaking out so frankly and eloquently.
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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:44 PM

^^ This!!!!


Though I don't remember Sue ever being not nice. :)


I can't always say as much for myself. :ph34r:


I also think this speaks volumes about your growth over those years too, Riika.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 09:48 AM

Very well said, Riika. I am a member of a novice Facebook group and it can get confusing for newbies like me who might initially have trouble knowing who knows what theyre talking about and who is FOS. I am thankful for this entire website, not just the boards, for the guidance. There are a few FB posters in particular whose advice I take seriously because I have followed their posts on this board. One in particular is decidedly not egotistical or mean and is forthright about her experience and very patient with even those who question her advice; when she is the one who knows what she is talking about. I would be utterly confused if it were not for those who take the time to inform. Well, I might be a little confused sometimes, but not because of the experienced folks . This whole gig [ETA: learning to handle a dog on sheep] can get overwhelming for the sheer difficulty of learning it (at least for me). Ill echo the thanks for these boards.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 10:54 AM

Thanks for hanging in there, Riika, and congratulations on your two beautiful, working Border Collies!



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:27 AM

How to make a life with a Border Collie isnt self evident. We have all needed help. Donald

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 01:49 PM

Can't add much more, but I will saw we were all newbies once. When I first came here I had a bc from a backyard breeder, beautiful girl w/a lovely temperament. I had no idea at all what to do with her or how to do it.


The folks on these boards have educated me well. I'm appreciative more than I can say.


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Posted 16 February 2018 - 10:34 AM

I am another one who originally came here clueless, and am grateful beyond words for this forum.


Folks here have steered me when I was going in the wrong direction, have encouraged me, cheered my own dog's and my foster dogs' successes, given excellent advice, and in general been there for me over the years.


I can depend on this group to give me straight answers and opinions, and many have been very generous with their time and knowledge. This forum does a great service to many people, and I am happy to be associated with it.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 01:23 PM

Thank you BC Boards for being a voice of sanity in the oh-so-screwed-up world of dogs.  If it weren't for this forum and Terrierman I'd still be living in an AKC paradigm. 


I got my ears chewed a bit when I first arrived (with my first Border Collie and a bunch of wrong-headed ideas) but it didn't hurt (too much) and the wealth of information and the perspective shift I got were well worth it.


I still have that same Border Collie, and have had one rescue through my hands - I got her a working home! - and they have both reaped the benefits of BC Boards wisdom.


Thanks so much.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 03:38 PM

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 01:40 PM

I also want to thank the person at the second sheepdog trial I attended as a spectator in Maryland (who may or may not be on these boards) who looked at my well behaved dog then kindly at me, and said, “That’s a nice dog”. It was a gesture that said, “You and your dog are welcome here” and it stuck with me. I don’t forget small kindnesses.

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 08:54 AM

I'm glad you hung in there Riika. I don't get to the boards as much as I used to, but I try to check in now and again just to see what's going on. I'm glad to know people still find the information here useful.


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