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#41 Maja

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 11:23 AM

A small update.

 

The little of peeks of change here and there were actually a beginning of an avalanche of Darinka's self-makover.  Darinka seems an altogether  different dog now.  She so very nice to work with. 

 

Of course, the video is not really representative, since I never had the heart to actually show our problems on a video of how she could lie down for like hours on end when I wanted her to walk up, or completely refuse to lie down when I wanted her to lie down.  Or how an away-from-pressure  flank was an impossibility and how her heading was an imperative, and how her response was a zoomie or a freeze. 

 

All this has changed dramatically, she makes mistakes of course, but it is all at a very normal manageable level. And what's more, her mistakes are correctable, which means we are actually making head-ways every time we training.  Her own initiative in the Darinka makeover is her recall which she insists on performing like am earth-to-earth supersonic missile with me as the target :)

 

So the video is not all that different  from other videos of Darine. And pelase keep in mind that handling and filming are to a large extend mutually exclusive activities :).

 

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 05:09 PM

That's awesome! I love following your story with Darine, both on here and on the FB group. I know what you mean about the trickling stream becoming an avalanche. I've felt the same with my own dog, once she passed 2.5 y/o it felt like she really came in to her own. Progress picked up, our working relationship improved further, and she shares very little in common with the dog I started.

 

Will you be trialling at some point with her?



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Posted 18 September 2015 - 12:57 AM

I would love to trial with her, and her progress is now such that the plan looks feasible for the first time. The next step is increasing precision in commands and going to practice on strange sheep.   These sheep are calm, and new sheep usually react a lot to Darine; it takes them a while to realize she is not a Big Bad Wolf, she only looks like one. 

 

Bonnie has the same problem: she needs to ooze power here at home because our flock is small and used to the dogs, and whenever she goes somewhere else, she instantly increases the distance dramatically, and yet the sheep are freaked out as soon as she appears on the horizon.  So they both need lots of mileage on that (which is not easy here in Poland) .  

 

The Big Bad Wolf:

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Posted 26 September 2015 - 09:58 AM

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 03:05 AM

I wrote sometime ago on Darinka being heading crazy.  Which made things very hard, pretty-near impossible if the sheep as much as conceived a thought of speeding up let alone escaping.   I know that based on a few minutes of video here and there, she seemed pretty good, but I only wrote about the real problems, and never showed them because it would have broken my heart.  So I only recorded it for self-teaching.  But take my word for it - it was really bad.

And of course, as you know, she finally started getting better and better. And yesterday, we went to bring the sheep, and Darine, not knowing there were sheep out in the field, lagged behind. When she realized she stayed behind, she took off in her typical earth-to-earth missile fashion towards me (and the sheep).  The sheep seeing the speeding blur spooked in the skudde fashion.  That sped Darine up, of course. She zipped past me.

 

And, before I even managed to open my mouth, she pancaked herself  flat with the squeaking of her paw-pads.  The sheep suddenly halted, shocked as much as I. We all remained motionless, who knows for how long.  The sun was setting and all was quiet.  I think even the birches marveled at the sight of Darine in a self-imposed lie-down.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 03:07 AM

P.S. The flanks commands improved sufficiently, so I don't need to create 'boring" flank situations for her. 


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Posted 09 October 2015 - 07:20 AM

Sounds as if you're making good progress with her! Just keep reminding yourself that the difficult ones help us to grow as trainers.

 

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Posted 09 October 2015 - 12:58 PM

Just keep reminding yourself that the difficult ones help us to grow as trainers.

 

Oh, yes, that's so true, Julie!  Particularly that I have so much growing to do yet. 


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Posted 15 July 2016 - 02:00 AM

A little Darinka update.

 

Just in case anybody was wondering ( :lol: ) how we are doing. We are doing great. Darine is such a sweet dog and often so very funny, so anxious to do things right, so beautiful in her OLFs, so improved in everything else. 

 

The only thing that is keeping us from trialing is the weakest link - me.  I have a problem with the situation that Bonnie is going deaf, and I can't  do real work with Bonnie who is not happy, and somehow this really take the wind out of my sails with Darine, her training and trialing.  Does it make sense to you? No? To me neither :wacko: .   But trialing is not the most important thing in the world and working with Darine is  so much pleasure now  (I just never can get lazy and take the two dogs together because Darine thinks I am mad at her when I set the volume so that Bonnie can hear me).  And there will be a clinic at my place soon, so maybe my friend who is coming to teach will kick me in zee posterior to get over it and start trialing with Darine.  But things are good :)

 

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 09:01 AM

So happy to hear all is well with Darinka. She is so beautiful.

 

Those sheep/lambs are so cute.


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Posted 23 July 2016 - 04:20 AM

Thank you!

 

Today, I took Darinka for a walk, and did what I do to remind myself what a hearing dog is like :) . Darine went off to the far end, so she was over 200 yds from me. I said "Darine!" at a conversational volume when people are talking outdoors, so only a bit raised voice.  And she came running (I often call her starting with the very low volume to see what is the minimum that works so that I keep low volume when training, and I keep getting surprised).  It makes me cringe to think what she must have felt when I trained with her not knowing that my volume was actually always set for a hard-of-hearing dog from early on  :(  .  


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Posted 23 July 2016 - 07:59 AM

Nice to read that things are going well with you Maja. I wish you all the best getting into trialling with Darinka, I have no doubt you two will do great!


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 08:16 AM

Thank you!  Tomorrow I will take a small flock out and keep them separate, so that I can go to train easily (I have a problem taking sheep out of the flock, even though they are small.)


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 12:21 PM

Maja, not sure if you will see this or not, but I am curious about Darinka's hips. It's been almost 2 years since your last post, and I really enjoyed reading about your training dilemmas and breakthroughs. She is a lovely girl! I'm just curious about how you & she are doing now, and about how her hips turned out?

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 12:25 PM

I apologize! I did not read past the first page of posts!

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 02:21 AM

I did not read past the first page of posts!

:)  I am a very elite breeder that specializes in extreme niche breeding, called non-breeding  :lol: :lol:  , I have four bitches now, that were supposed to be breeding bitches, but none of them is, and only Kelly out of the four had puppies, but was pulled out of breeding due to epilepsy in her pups.  And I have frozen semen that I have no bitch to use for  :lol: :lol: .  

 

For Darine, her displasia is very slight in one hip, and many people breed dogs with this level of HD, but for me she would have to be very exceptional otherwise to risk a litter out of her, and she's not.   But in everyday work she is very agile and  the concept of fence does not apply to her apparently. I do have a feeling though of sitting on a time bomb waiting, thinking that with my luck so far, we will get to a half decent level of training and her hips will start causing her problems and that will be that.  


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 12:04 PM

For Darine, her displasia is very slight in one hip, and many people breed dogs with this level of HD, but for me she would have to be very exceptional otherwise to risk a litter out of her, and she's not.  

 

Thanks you for making this very responsible decision, both for Darinka and your other dogs!

 

I know there are other breeders who would make the same choices, but there are far too many who don't and it hurts the breed as a whole.

 

Kudos to you!


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Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:32 AM

A small update.

 

Darine has added  something to her skill-set: (1) pen capacity testing ;) (2) taking the flock put of the pen. I asked her sometimes to put our little flock into the small pen and she usually does a neat job of it, here of course, recording and handling don't go hand in hand, so some sheep had to be tucked in here and there.  But taking them out is was the way she usually does it, since I try not to interfere with the dog in these situations, just giving quiet encouragement.

 

There's probably a ton of things that are not quite up to this par or other in her penning and unpenning, but I like her quiet unperturbed manner when she squeezes into the pen. 

 


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Posted 02 October 2016 - 06:11 AM

Yesterday, she rubbed herself in fox-poo so today, our last training now for a while,  she tried to make-up for the "fox-poo incident":

 


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Posted 03 October 2016 - 04:12 AM

Haha, that is very cool. The way she squeezes under that sheep!

I´ve seen vids of kelpies walking over a group of sheep in a chute, but tunneling is a new technique for me!


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