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#1 chene


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 05:28 PM

I wasn't sure where to put this, but this seems appropriate enough.
I was looking on the site of the breeder I'm getting a dog from and she mentioned two of her dogs who had run in "intermediate" at the Phantom Ridge trial. I have only ever heard of an "Intermediate" level in AKC trials, but Phantom Ridge is owned by Louanne Twa and from what I know of her it clearly it wasn't an AKC trial. I was wondering if the "intermediate" level is a thing in Canada, or if it was just her name for the pro-novice, or what?


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 06:03 PM

Here are the classes offered at Phantom Ridge, appears to be in between Novice and Pro-Novice when it comes to level of difficulty assuming that "full drive" is drive with cross drive and "drive" may only be one leg of the drive with no cross drive, maybe someone who has been there can fill us in on what full drive vs. drive is.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 06:04 PM

Hi. I'm not sure about sheep trials and Intermediate--might be a local Canadian thing. It is also a sanctioned class for the NCA (National Cattledog Association) for dog/handler teams that are not quite ready to compete in Open. Since I know Louanne does not do cattle trials, I am guessing it would be similar to Pro-Novice or Open Ranch as it is called in various parts of the country. Who is the breeder?


ETA Looks like Deb and I posted at the same time, but she did more research than I...

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 06:15 PM

That's perfect, Debbie, thanks so much. Where did you find that? Obviously I don't know where to look for the right information!

Anna, the breeder is Lindsay Powell. She has just recently gotten into trialing, I believe, so I don't think many people know her.



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Posted 16 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

In Alberta, Intermediate is the same course as Pro Novice, but it's for handlers who have never run in Open. OR, lift fetch, drive, crossdrive, pen.

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 07:32 AM

On the east coast, intermediate as described would be the equivalent of our pro-novice course. The P/N described would be the equivalent of our open ranch. But however you name it, intermediate as described is one step above the beginner class.



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