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#21 Root Beer

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 01:42 PM

My first response is to think that the children (they WERE children, right? I can't bear to re-read the article) who committed this heinous crime should be subjected to the sternest possible punitive measurements - that they should learn to recognize the consequences of their actions.


I believe that both suspects that have been taken into custody are over 18. At least one is 21.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 04:20 PM

Yeah, neither of these guys is a kid. But... whatever... they were kids once. Adults like this don't spring out of nowhere. Their history made them. Or, their genes made them. Or, they were drinking that caffeinated beverage (they call it "Buckfast" apparently?) that has allegedly been linked to extreme violence in young men.

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Looks like the dog is doing better. I'm amazed at the difference in her nose and eyes after just a week!

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 10:33 PM

It is good to hear she is doing better. I haven't been able to look. If there is a hell, there has to be a special kind for those who inflict this sort of senseless suffering. But there I go again, gazing into the abyss.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 05:12 AM

Sad news: Codie, the burned dog, got much worse from Friday through yesterday, and didn't survive.

I hope that the outrage caused by this incident will at least lead to tougher laws against animal cruelty.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:12 AM

He looked so good. Wonder what happened to turn such a drastic corner so quick.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:14 AM

I was thinking of her since I saw this. And I am so, so sorry that she had to suffer like this. I was praying it would lead to recovery at least after all. My heart breaks at the news of her death.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:59 AM

Yeah, now I'm really staring into the abyss. This is the kind of thing that elicits my inner misanthrope. It is just horrible that she had to endure days of suffering, only to die of her injuries.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

From what I've read about treatment of severe burns, the long-term pain is horrendous. I suspect she was almost in shock early on, not feeling it yet.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 12:04 PM

With such a large area of burned tissue, it's really tough. Infection can be a problem. And the shock factor would be huge for an animal so cruelly treated and frightened half to death.

Poor Codie. Poor kids. Poor family. Poor vets and staff who cared for him and had to witness his suffering and lost him anyway.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 04:42 PM

I saw the news on facebook this morning and my heart broke for Codie and the family. Unbelievable. I don't understand what is wrong with people. :angry:
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 05:52 PM

I am truly saddened to hear this. :(

My prayers are with her family.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:41 PM

In my Tex's case, his abuser was clearly not of his right mind. That doesnt make the end result any different but at least I have some understanding of it.

Poor Codie...I'm glad that the suffering has ended for this beautiful dog.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:05 AM

Poor Codie...I'm glad that the suffering has ended for this beautiful dog.


Burns are horribly painful. I can't imagine how this poor dog felt. May he rest in peace.

I am so so sorry for the loss that the family has suffered.

I too hope that the public outrage continues and that the offenders get the maximum punish possible.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 02:02 PM

So terribly, terribly sad. The dog was so badly burned, I'm actually not surprised she could not survive. Burns that deep and extensive exact an awful toll on the body, and I imagine she was in terrible pain.

From what I'm reading, the laws where this happened are not nearly severe enough, so if anything, I hope this will galvanize a movement to get the punishments for such terrible deeds increased. The family is devastated, the children of this family are traumatized - an article said one child can't stop crying and the other is afraid to be out of his parents' sight. How can small children possibly deal with learning that such great and brutal evil exists in the world?

No matter how poorly a person is raised, (and the suspects appear to be legally adults) unless they are severely mentally ill, they know something like this is wrong. The fact that several people were involved suggests that no only did they know it was wrong, they took pleasure in its evil. People like that need their freaking asses kicked, and locked away from the light of day.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 03:58 PM

So terribly, terribly sad. The dog was so badly burned, I'm actually not surprised she could not survive. Burns that deep and extensive exact an awful toll on the body, and I imagine she was in terrible pain.

From what I'm reading, the laws where this happened are not nearly severe enough, so if anything, I hope this will galvanize a movement to get the punishments for such terrible deeds increased. The family is devastated, the children of this family are traumatized - an article said one child can't stop crying and the other is afraid to be out of his parents' sight. How can small children possibly deal with learning that such great and brutal evil exists in the world?

No matter how poorly a person is raised, (and the suspects appear to be legally adults) unless they are severely mentally ill, they know something like this is wrong. The fact that several people were involved suggests that no only did they know it was wrong, they took pleasure in its evil. People like that need their freaking asses kicked, and locked away from the light of day.

Sociopathic killers in training, man ...

No longer in training. They are graduate killers.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 04:04 PM

No longer in training. They are graduate killers.


Animal abuse is a strong indicator of sociopathic tendencies and so is setting fires... the kind of things that can progress to serial killer activities (or so I've been told by a friend working on rehabilitation programs in the correctional system)

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 06:37 PM

But... let's face it. This is so far out of the boundary of normal behavior of children that we need to consider the possibility that the individuals in question are sociopaths. A lack of empathy is one of the hallmarks of sociopathy. If you check out this website, you'll read that "Early cruelty to animals is usually a sign of serious emotional or behavioral problems". Sociopaths have trouble feeling the remorse that normal humans feel. They'll try to shirk responsibility, or talk their way out of situations.




From what I remember of my sociology/psych classes - children raised in an environment of abuse become abusers themselves. If it really was children that did this (can't bear to look at the article) then some serious investigation/intervention is required.

That poor brave dog. I am awed that she managed to make it home to her family after being so terribly injured. Rest in peace little one.

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