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#21 pineapple

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:00 PM

Well I won't write off his interest just yet as he is still surprising me.. We have had a heatwave and the river is low. Today he amazed me by paddling around (previously he wouldn't even dip a paw in water). Then he doubly amazed me by picking up a stick and playing with it. Ever since my old dog got a stick injury, I haven't encouraged it but it was nice to see. 

None of this would have happened if I had had the ball because once he knows it's there, he is totally fixated. I can't get away with hiding it either because he can smell it



#22 bradling

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 01:13 PM

Its hard to take Shadow to other places besides the dog park because I'm in the middle of the city... I am starting to have second thoughts on taking her there at all, there's just so many things she can get away with at the dog park.  And then there's always the fact that if I don't bring her ball, she'll find 2 or 3 right away laying around at the park.  Another issue besides balls just laying around is that about 1 in 5 owners will have a ball to throw for their dog, and of course she thinks it's okay to butt right in.

 

She's started showing defensiveness for her ball at a park now.  As she's growing and becoming more confident in herself its a bit more aggressive than the small nipping she was doing a few weeks back.  If an unfamiliar dog approaches her while she's resting with her ball she'll become aggressive and openly show that she doesn't want them around.

 

There's only about one other place nearby where I might be able to throw her ball for her.  I was wanting the dog park to be a place where she could socialize and play more, but I'm not confident we can make it that as she's easily able to play fetch anywhere with anyone.  I'm also wanting her to not think she needs to do this everyday.  I hide her ball while we're at home, otherwise she'll bring it to me and whine to play.  I'm thinking of trying to spend more time with her working on other things like perhaps games and obedience.  I've also contacted a herding instructor who we'll probably start working with in this upcoming month.



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Posted 30 June 2017 - 02:09 PM

Trick training can really keep those brilliant minds busy. Gibbs has had some odd back problems, no diagnosis but it was recommended I cut back his fetching by a lot. So he gets to fetch one or two days a week, and we work on silly tricks and behaviors the rest of the time.

 

There are tons of YouTube videos, Kikopup is a good place to start.

 

Good luck ~ you're doing the right thing by taking steps now to prevent trouble later on.

 

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 04:14 PM

I hear more and more [dog behaviorists, trainers and chiro/rehab specialists] that mindless ball-fetching is not good for dogs - either physically or behaviorally. A few games of controlled fetch is OK, but they are discouraging ball fetching as a form of exercise. So don't feel guilty if you have to give up fetch.

As Ruth said, trick-training is great. Also look into classes or free videos for teaching rally, freestyle (dancing with your dog), nosework, mind games, etc. All of these can help you develop a stronger bond with your dog than letting your dog think of you as her personal ball machine.

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 05:21 PM

Agree with the trick training as a solution.

Maybe a few throws with the ball could be her reward for a well-executed training session.

 

I found that with jester, indoor play was even more exciting to him, just throwing a soft toy in the living room.

 

There is also Musical Canine Freestyle. You dance with your dog. No actual dancing ability required, and it is really fun for both of you. Good bonding, too. Look up some videos on that. Maybe see if there's a group or club or class in your area.

 

If you do decide to continue with fetch as a play, you can always find a place to do it, even in a city.

 

I lived in LA with a fetch-loving border collie. He didn't care if I threw the ball or frisbee forty feet or four feet, it was all the same to him. So I had a series of places I could take him on different days and times of day. Some were just patches of grass the size of a living room, but that worked. Sometimes is was a school or playground at dawn. It was a challenge, because to have a dog off leash in these places, or in parks, was not legal. But at the right times of day no one was there.


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#26 bradling

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:19 PM

Yeah, she's pretty good with playing fetch in the house as well, and it can be a soft toy too. I've been working on using the ball for different training methods too, like the 'come-by' and 'away' commands.

Today we played some hide and seek with one of her soft toys. She picked it up after about the first try... I'm always amazed at how smart she is.

#27 D'Elle

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 12:23 PM

Yeah, I had to resort to all kinds of techniques to hide the toy for hide-and-seek with Jester. Of course, he always found it because he could smell it, but I kept trying to make it take longer. Laying false sent trails for him, things like that.  I don't think it ever took him more than a minute, but I never had a big house, either.  :lol:


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Left to right: Kit, Jester, Boo, Digger

 

 

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"You gonna throw that?" --Jester:  2001 - June 24 2016. Remembered with much love.
"I'm grouchier than you are" --Kit

"I love everyone!" -- Boo

(Boing! Boing! Boing!)--Digger

And not pictured, Benjamin the cat, who thinks he is a small border collie with superpowers.

 

 

 



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