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I received the following in an email blast from a local trainer tonight.

 

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From the AKC:

 

January 10, 2014

 

http://www.akc.org/press_center/article.cfm?article_id=5246

 

Dear AKC Delegates, Club Officers, Judges and Breeders,

 

Please share this information with club members in Washington State.

 

On Tuesday, January 16th the Washington State House Judiciary Committee is scheduled to consider House Bill 2117, which would amend the states dangerous dog law and prohibit local governments from banning possession of a particular breed or declaring a specific breed of dog to be dangerous or potentially dangerous.

 

Please support responsible dog owners and breeders of all breeds by asking your legislators to approve this legislation.

 

House Judiciary Committee Meeting"

 

I am quite confused to why a club that supports various breeds that could end up on BSL would support it.

 

I know it boils down to money, but I just don't get it. Or am I missing something completely obvious?

 

ETA: I did miss something, they are wanting approval. Never mind, must be tired, I apologize.

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I am quite confused to why a club that supports various breeds that could end up on BSL would support it.

 

 

I'm guessing here, but it would seem to me that this bill is aimed at pit bulls primarily, despite the mention of other breeds. The "Pit Bull" is not an AKC breed. There are a lot of pit bulls out there. What sort of dog will "Pit Bull" owners get if they can't get a "Pit Bull"? My guesses are Am. Staffs., Staffordshire Bull Terriers, other "bully breeds" that are registered by the AKC, plus the "usual suspects" like German Shepherd Dogs, Rottweilers, etc.

 

Registrations equal $$$. Also, the proliferation of the "pit bull" has happened without significant help from puppy mills. But AKC breeds are mass-produced in money puppy mills. Registrations, registrations, registrations...

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Frankly, I own GSD's and I don't want any legislator telling me if I can or can not own the breed. So, whoever supports my right to own the breed I choose....right on!

 

I don't know Pitt's. Can't say I trust them because everything I know is hear say....yet I rescued a little adult female off the street that was not convinced that I was a good person. In the effort of trying to get her vetted and find the right home for her, I have found a lovely, happy and quite fun little dog in the old Pitt body. She is just a dog. A fun and quite lovely little dog that has the same ability to do as much damage as my GSD's. I love dogs. Therefore, Pit or not, I was not going to let her suffer in freezing wet weather.

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I take care of several mostly pits and they are just as sweet as they can be.

 

That said, I just saw where the most fatalities were from pits #1 and Rotts #2.

 

I don't know how accurate those figures are because there seem to be so many more pits around here than any other breed of dog. Out of all those thousands of dogs only a handful are really a threat to the population.

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My son and his family have just adopted their 3rd rottie (probably a mix). Their previous two died last year at 12 years old. Basically of old age in a large breed. Their dogs have been about the sweetest I've ever known. It all has to do with how you raise and train dogs.

 

My cousin was a behaviorist dog trainer. He had dobs and rotties as his own pets - and examples of proper training. Folks often called him for training "to make my dog mean" to be a watch dog or to protect the kids. He explained that a mean dog is a poor watch dog and dangerous around any children. If folks insisted, he turned them down. His dogs would certainly do what was necessary to stop attacks of any kind (they'd been trained to guard the Groton Naval Base). But only on George's specific command. Otherwise, they were big hunks of love.

 

Anyhow, most of the report I read about dogs' attacking anyone indicate somewhere in the story that the dog was kept for "protection" as well as for a pet. Reading between the lines, I usually get the feeling that the dog had not been trained at all. I blame the breed of the owner, not of the dog.

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. It all has to do with how you raise and train dogs.

 

 

Wellll, kiiiiindaaaa.

 

I confess it kind of bothers me when I read that "its all in how they are raised" because in my experience temperament does have a huge inherited component. Absolutely, socializing and training your dog has a huge effect on how your dog behaves. But some dogs do come genetically programmed to be especially fearful or sharp. And you can train until the cows home home and your dog may still have issues. This is why you should pick your breeder carefully.

 

So its "partly in how they are raised, and partly because they were bred from dogs with solid temperaments."

 

I would bet if you met the parents of your son's Rottis you would find that they had nice, stable temperaments as well.

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Well, the first two (brothers) were at an Adopt-a-Thon they encountered when they went for groceries. No clue as to parents. This one was the result of some male dogs' vaulting a high fence with a friend's female. They know the Mom - no one can prove who was the Dad.

 

I guess I wasn't clear enough. Sure, you'll come across dogs that - for whatever reason - are not going to be quite right no matter what you do. When my cousin died, one of his dogs was put down, and their ashes were scattered together. He had taken on that dog because he knew there was something wrong with its temperament. The dog was great for him. He just knew that it wouldn't be for anyone else he knew. He had homes lined up for all the others.

 

But that can happen within any breed. This dog was mostly border collie. But, my point was, that it's not the fault of a whole breed. An inbred, badly-bred Yorkie can be more dangerous than a well-bred doberman. That's why I say it is up to the owners, not up to a blanket rule about a particular breed of dog.

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It all has to do with how you raise and train dogs

 

That is a big part of it but there is also temperament. Poor temperaments can occur in any breed and especially in the popular breeds. Combine that with large size and protective tendencies, toss in no or bad training, and you get a dangerous dog.

 

I have met wonderful rotts, including an incredibly sweet girl despite a miserable life with her ignorant, outright mean owner. I have also see n a number of very unstable rotts. Sadly for them, they often draw bad breeders and the wrong owners.

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Year's ago I was out at a clinic and a man and his wife showed up with this huge rott male. They were breeders and I guess this was their super stud dog. And they wanted to see if it had herding instinct.

 

So this guy gets up in front of everyone and announces that this is an agressive male and for everyone to stay back.

 

I have to put in this aside: This man was wearing good slacks, sweater and slick soled dress shoes and his wife had very big hair, a very short skirt and go-go boots. And this was about 20 years after the go-go thing. And this was a stock dog clinic out on a very muddy farm.

 

Owner couldn't hold the dog because his shoes kept slipping in the mud. The dog trainer jumped on the fence and was afraid to get anywhere near the dog. And the dog only wanted to eat the sheep.

 

These same breeders had a two year old child. The dog was kept in a kennel far, far away from the child.

 

I have been afraid of rotts ever since.

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I'm sitting 2 rotts and a golden right now.

 

The rotts (there are 3 of them, but the older one's having some medical issues so now travels with the clients) are some of the nicest dogs I've ever met. Actually, most rotties I've met have been just big babies.

 

The golden thinks he should be a lap dog, though. :rolleyes:

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