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#1 Creiglowlady

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 10:56 PM

Hello! I have a 12 week old border collie that is masked and the rest of her body is white which is turning out to be ticked allover. She has a longer coat and I was wondering what anyone else uses to make her coat nice and shiny. When we do bath her she is washed with Burt's bees dogs shampoo. I'm looking for something natural that I can use that won't make her greasy haven't looked into anything on the internet and knew how many of bc parents are on her and thought maybe you'd have recommendations on something or if I should just leave her alone lol. I don't want to use anything all the time because I don't want to ruin the oil balance her coat already produces. Thank you in advance for any advice.

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 11:17 PM

1) I literally can't remember the last time I bathed my 11+ year old border collie -- maybe 2-3 times in his life. People are always telling me how good he smells, and assuming he was just bathed. My 5+ year old lurcher had a bath once.

 

Border collies don't need to be bathed very often unless they're out rolling in something nasty. They have beautifully self cleaning coats on their own. If they've gotten muddy after a good run in the woods, I might rinse them off with clear water, but I'll bet I've had the same bottle of home made dog shampoo for 15 or more years. . . . and I've used very little of it.

 

Bathing removes the natural sebum (oils) from a dog's fur and skin and is one of the biggest reasons behind poor diet for dry, flaky skin.

 

I know someone who spins and weaves dog fur. She's commented to me that the best quality fur comes from dogs who aren't bathed. She can tell just by working with the fur if it's a dog who gets bathed, and will often discard fur from dogs who are bathed often. She loves getting my dogs' natural unwashed fur.

 

2) You bathed her (possibly more than once) at the age of 12 weeks? Good doG, that's too young to be bathing a puppy.

 

3) I give my dogs fish oil (salmon oil, but human fish oil gel caps are great, too. Just make sure they've been purified to remove mercury) and the occasional raw egg (once or twice a week) and my dogs' coats are fabulous. I also feed a raw diet, but fish oil supplementation and a raw egg now and again are still good for kibble fed dogs.


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Posted 30 April 2017 - 11:18 PM

Unless she rolls in something disgusting, (which some dogs looooove to do) I doubt if she needs to be bathed all that much. Of the border collies I've had, 3 only needed baths when they did the 'roll in something smelly'. The 4th had allergic seborrhea, which produced an oily, smelly coat that needed regular medicated bathing.

 

I'd just leave her alone. It's been so long since I've used anything on Gibbs I don't know what I'd use if he needed it.

 

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 11:20 PM

GL and I were posting at the same time. Gibbs gets salmon oil, too. He does get the occasional rinse from an outside hose when he's muddy, but I don't think I've used soap on him in over a year. And his coat is soft, shiny, and floating alllll over my house right now.

 

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 11:40 PM

That's great advice. Thank you gentle lake and urge to herd. we have only bathed her twice and it was because she loves loves loves the mud But now that you both have pointed out washing her wouldn't be good. It makes as much sense as to why I do not wash my hair every day due to it drying out. So duh I could kick myself​ for not thinking about it. Other time we just rinse her off with clear water which works fine so we will just keep doing that. I didnt want anything like a conditioner so her fur wouldnt stop producing natural oils same with humans hair if they condition to often. So the salmon oil is an awesome idea. Thank you both I truly appreciate the helpful advice

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 02:51 AM

Never bathed our 11 year old or our nearly 3 year old bcs . The nearly 14 year old hound x may have had a couple when young. Spot washes or mud rinses only as necessary.



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 02:56 AM

Of our four dogs, the only one who gets anything like regular washes is our white face.  He has maybe one or two baths a year, and only when he starts looking grey instead of white.  I do not think I have washed the others in, um, actually I can't remember when.  Well over a year at least.  Muddy puppies dry off and the mud flakes and falls off - BCs have a natural teflon coat!



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 04:26 AM

My dogs have never been bathed. Mud just falls off and they don't smell at all.

I do have to get the hair on Tommy's backend clipped once in a while. Her white coat us like cotton candy and it mats really easily.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:21 AM

Mostly what they all said.

I probably bathe my BCs more often than most - at least once a year or so!  LOL.

 

That said, we do hike a lot where there's mud.  My house isn't spotless, but I'd prefer not to see muddy footprints across my floors/carpets.  So....mine get "hosed off" a lot when we get home.  Its hard when the water/temps are cold, and I'd be leery of using much cold water on a young pup (they don't control their body temp as easily as an older dog). Sometimes I'll run water in the bathtub just up to their hocks (ankles), and make them swish around in it for a bit - no soap.  That usually works just fine!

 

BTW, unless I missed it elsewhere, anyone asking advice here on a young pup is required to post at least one picture!  :D

 

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:55 AM

I don'the bathe but I do hose off mud. I will use a mild dog shampoo for a spot clean if there's something too stinky that just hosing won't remove adequately.
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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:58 AM

PS - Hot and cold frost-proof spigots are one of the best things we've installed. Using mild-temperature water means I can hose guilt-free all year tound.
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Posted 01 May 2017 - 10:15 AM

Thanks for all the replies! I will never wash her again lol. I did some research on top of all your comments and your completely right!.
And Diane Allen I have soooo many pictures of her but I don't know how to load them it always tells me my pictures are to big :( she is a beauty I'll definitely post if you can give me pointers on a website to load them to so I can attach them or whatnot

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 01:49 PM

I bathe Tess once or twice a year - she has the non aderent bc coat and always smells good, but being white, she eventually aquires a yellowish hue.


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 02:11 PM

I bathe my dogs a couple of times a month, which apparently makes me a huge outlier!  They stay in hotels a lot, sleep on the bed, and they work sheep in often icky conditions. I use Mane n Tail diluted one part shampoo to three parts water. We have hot water plumbed to the outside, and a booster bath. If it makes me seem like a little less of a loser, I never blow dry them LOL!  Skin is fine, coat is shiny and soft.   :P


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 02:31 PM

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 02:31 PM

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 02:36 PM

Yes teresaserrano the white gets various diffent colors if my children use chalk on the patio lady turns into a rainbow dog lol.

And airbear the slow dryer would probably being taking it a little far lol!

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 03:06 PM

She is mighty cute!


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 04:03 PM

Thank you! I'm quite excited to see her coat progress into adulthood. She had only to spots on her nose when we got her and now she has spot allover her muzzle, legs and back. My husband didn't believe me she would be ticked so I did some research and watched her grow for a few weeks and in no time at all sure enough to she was getting her spots her skin underneath is pink with black spots allover.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 05:01 PM

Same as the others (except airbear  ;) ).  Generally don't wash and if they get a bit muddy, will spot clean with water from a hose. I have one that will find sloppy cow poop and then will stop, drop and roll. (My neighbor's cows escape onto our property every so often.) One day last week, she had TWO shampoo baths, but luckily, I only had to wash the head, neck, chest and shoulder area. Two days after that, another dog 'found' a skunk at 10:30 at night. I was NOT happy to be bathing a dog at 11 pm on a Saturday night.  BTW, the H2O2 + baking soda + dish detergent formula found on the internet for removing skunk smell works great!

 

I think that you will find the puppy coat gets dirtier than an adult coat. So you will not have to worry about bathing as much once her adult coat comes in.


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