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#21 Maja

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:28 AM

What about breeds like Briards and Bouviers?

 

 In Continental Europe, to my best knowledge, the Alte deutsche schäferhund and  the pyrenean shepherds have been truly used for livestock work with enough of working dogs in the breed to matter.  There are many breeds that do fine sheep herding but their talents scattered across the population, you never know what you will get. 

 

My wife doesn't allow me to have goats.
She is the voice of reason on our farm.

 

Goats  are wonderful. They quickly led us to border collies  and to sheep :D .


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:19 PM

i prefer corriente cattle here where i am. I had a big herd of spanish goats. Their maaing brought every predator. Range ewes have done well, but corriente are the best.





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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:39 PM

Had to google "corriente cattle" they look quite beautiful.
Living in Iceland one does not have a whole range of breeds to choose from, when it comes to stock ( I'd really like to have Scottish highland cattle...)
Luckily the rules on importing dogs are not that prohibitive, or we would not have had bordercollies.

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 12:46 PM

thank you, we like them. they will ring up and fight predators and are well armed

 

the below is trout with one of the young bulls

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 01:20 PM

Am I right in assuming that's a courageous dog?

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 08:02 AM

That is one of my good bitches. I would not consider her overly courageous- she is brave-  there is this- The corriente are wise and if a dog is powerful but diplomatic they move very easily. However if a dog is weak he will be CHASED off and I mean chased. They know as all cattle kinda do.

That being said, that bull, when older, took a stand near a fence where some young heifers were standing and I mean Took A Stand. (Read Between the Lines- Took a Stand next to a fenceline.)

 

I moved him with the toughest dog I have, Blood Sucking Fly Man who, like the Marines, is sent in when there is not another way. Tho, Tick (BSFM)  Had to be Trained to be diplomatic because if you get something pissed it is harder to move. And since these cattle know how to fight, best to work with them, ya know? That time there was no other way, other than rope and drag. I had recently broken my right wrist, Pete was in Town.

 

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 10:38 AM

if you get something pissed it is harder to move.

 

Very true.   My Bonnie before she started going  deaf was that way with ewes with babies. She could take any ewe where ever needed so deftly that ewe never faced her once.

 

But I also had an idiot ram, where no diplomacy ever worked. The idiot put up a fight every time, and was beat every time and every time he tried to stand up to her.  I got rid of him quickly, since I can’t abide idiots.  I try to train both dogs and sheep that  all is well in the world as soon as you move off the dog.     


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 06:22 PM

I've often wonder about using sheep/goats for grazing ski slopes in the summer

I'm sure it's common in Europe but I've wondered how common in North America

 

John Wentz in Portage WI grazes his sheep on a ski area in the summer. Saves them money and is more environmentally friendly than using herbicide or mowing.



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 07:42 PM

Here's a link to a short clip of a German Shepherd and a German Tiger dog in a tending contest. This is typical of the type of work tending dogs are used for in Germany:  

 

https://stockdogsavv...t-bavaria-1963/


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 01:48 PM

Here's a link to a short clip of a German Shepherd and a German Tiger dog in a tending contest. This is typical of the type of work tending dogs are used for in Germany:  

 

https://stockdogsavv...t-bavaria-1963/

 

Look at that gorgeous GSD.


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:13 PM

Look at that gorgeous GSD.

 

I agree, rushdoggie. What a lovely dog!



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:48 PM

Yeah. That's the kind of GSD I fell in love with as a kid. Not these mutants you see nowadays that make me want to cry.


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