
No Free Lunch
#1
Posted 18 March 2017 - 11:45 AM
+ While I am waiting for an InterLibrary Loan copy of "Perfect Puppy in 7 Days" (yeah, I know, horrible title! I have found that many books with horrible titles, fortunately, have excellent information inside. My first experience with this was Bach's "Smart Women Finish Rich" 😒 `eyeroll emoji`) I am using this article: [url="https://drsophiayin....g-the-program/"[/url]
#2
Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:43 PM
Worked well for me. I think it helps with impulse control.
Jovi
"Folks will know how large your soul is by the way you treat a dog." Charles F. Duran
#3
Posted 18 March 2017 - 12:48 PM
#4
Posted 18 March 2017 - 02:10 PM
I have gotten away from using this approach because I inadvertently created a dog who was overly dependent on the direct presence of primary reinforcers. I was able to work with him and undo some of that, but I would never go back to the NILIF model.
I do use a little bit of it here and there as a technique to teach certain concepts, but I would never go wholesale with it again.
If you are committed to NILIF, I recommend a supplemental book called "Plenty in Life is Free". I believe that NILIF principles can be useful in specific circumstances, but always within a more "normal" overall framework.
Kristine
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#5
Posted 18 March 2017 - 04:58 PM
@Root Beer Sounds great! Thanks for the tip and for sharing your experience. I have now added "Plenty in Life is Free" by Kathy Sdao to my list of books to request on my next trip to the library!
#6
Posted 18 March 2017 - 05:10 PM
oooh, and looking in to "Plenty in Life is Free" also led me to a professional, Susan Friedman, who is nearbyish where I live. I like this "partnership" language that I am reading from both Sdao and Friedman. Thank you, again, @Root Beer!
#7
Posted 18 March 2017 - 05:30 PM
Caesg,
I have not read the book Root Beer recommends, but the general principle she suggests - not to use it 100% of the time - is probably closer to what I do. When I start training a pup or foster dog with no manners, I use NILIF for certain elementary behaviors, gradually adding more behaviors as the pup/dog progresses. And once I am satisfied that the pup understands the behavior and the verbal associated with it, I stop asking for the behavior as much. I will only ask for it randomly to make sure that the dog will respond to my verbal.
For example: dog sits and waits at door for you to open it and go through. I will teach that behavior and be fairly consistent in the beginning, but once my dogs are good about doing it upon a verbal, I don't always ask for it unless the situation requires it, or unless I want to see if they remember, or unless they are acting out and they need to calm down before going outside.
Basically, I don't want my dogs to be automatons, so I start with NILIF and then move away from it.
Jovi
"Folks will know how large your soul is by the way you treat a dog." Charles F. Duran
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