a good book
Posted 16 December 2005 - 10:57 PM
A publisher's blurb calls the book "reminiscent of James Herriot and Jon Katz's The Dogs of Bedlam Farm." I can see the Herriot comparison, but anyone who sees a similarity between this book and Katz's can't tell sheep from shinola.
Posted 17 December 2005 - 03:03 AM
Mesmerizing, but then I love sheep almost as much as the dogs.
Posted 17 December 2005 - 03:28 AM
Posted 17 December 2005 - 03:44 AM
I thought it was pretty flaky. Pseudoscience mixted with a random selection of actual controlled studies if they happened to support her position. In other words, I was totally not persuaded that being autistic was in any way comparable with how an animal thought.
Off to my sheep, did you guys get this huge snowstorm? I'm thinking I'm going to have to dig out their round bale feeder if not an actual sheep or two.
Posted 17 December 2005 - 03:58 AM
Yes, we have about a foot or more on the ground, but I love to train in the snow. It makes the sheep very heavy and the dogs have to push, push, push to move them. Does wonders for the thighs, too. Impossible to shed them, though.
Posted 17 December 2005 - 06:15 AM
I agree. You can't help being in awe of the dogs when you watch it. It doesn't hurt that that part of north Devon is gorgeous. The book and video together make a nice set.
Debbie, I think you're right that there was an edition of this book out a year or so ago. It was only distributed in the UK, I believe, but some of our specialty vendors like Geri and Francis may have brought over some copies for sale. This is its first release in the US. The amazon.com price is substantially under the list price, BTW.
As for Animals in Translation, impossible as it may sound, I agree with BOTH Wendy and Andrea. I thought it was loaded with interesting insights, some of which were demonstrably wrong but provided food for thought all the same. Occasionally she said things that were embarrassingly ignorant for a PhD in Animal Science (her apparent belief that all white color in animals is a form of albinism, for example), but she also said plenty of things that seemed valid as well as original. (Although I must report that a friend whom I respect a lot remarked to me that the more you knew about the particular topic she was talking about, the less sound and insightful she seemed, and I have to say I agree with that -- much of the dog stuff seemed weak and perfunctory to me.) But on the whole I thought it was pretty fascinating and provocative reading, with an unusual perspective, and I've given it as a gift to more than one friend.
Posted 17 December 2005 - 10:12 AM
Just so. Exactly my reaction.
Originally posted by Eileen Stein:
. . . Although I must report that a friend whom I respect a lot remarked to me that the more you knew about the particular topic she was talking about, the less sound and insightful she seemed . . .
I did like her book on autism though.
Posted 17 December 2005 - 10:58 AM
i met him once at a trial, he is a very nice man!
Originally posted by Eileen Stein:
I've just been reading David Kennard's book, A Shepherd's Watch: Through the Seasons with One Man and His Dogs,
'i still remember the day you said
that the river flowing through my head
would take me far or leave me dead
and all you said was true'
Posted 17 December 2005 - 11:01 AM
Thanks for the heads up on the David Kennard book, Eileen Something for my birthday list - too late for Christmas!
Cord, Ted, Gus, Sam - plus Maggie, Zhi, Lynn, Jetta, Lu, Min, and Tully
Posted 18 December 2005 - 07:26 AM
who now highly recommends book stores as a place to find great gifts!
Posted 19 December 2005 - 10:12 AM
Posted 19 December 2005 - 11:26 AM
Posted 21 December 2005 - 09:02 PM
A different perspective on Temple Grandin... She teaches at CSU, where I got both my master's and my doctorate, so I've heard her lecture. Having not read the book, I cannot comment on that, but in person, she's wonderful. She's a fascinating lecturer, and she has very significantly improved the handling of feedlot and slaughterhouse stock, at least locally (not sure on a national level). She gives the impression of having an absolutely brilliant mind, and yet it's clear that there's something different about her. But when she started talking I found myself sitting with my chin propped in my hands, staring at her in complete absorption, nary a note taken - and I'm a compulsive note-taker in lecture. So perhaps I'll have to read her book to see if I agree with it or not. It's true that her main focus, at least in the lectures I attended, was livestock, not dogs; perhaps she's more gifted in dealing with stock than with dogs. I can't say at this juncture.
Anyway, just another view of things.
Besides, I have to go make some wine now.
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