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#1 Kerales Farm

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:21 PM

hi Bob
I have a young dog who has some issues on the way side in driving. When he is on that side when driving, everything will be going along nicely, with him adjusting to the sheep well to hold the line, but then sometimes he will slide up a couple of steps, which turns the sheep. I have a similar problem when flanking him to that side on a drive--I'll give him a "there" whistle, indicating he should stop and turn into the sheep, and he will take a couple extra steps before turning in. which of course creates a different line than I had in mind! He doesn't do this on the comebye side, and I can't figure out what the deal is. It's almost as if he doesn't have as much "feel" on that side. I have tried pairing a "there" with a "lie down" to sharpen up his response, but that isn't working. I've worked him driving along a fence and told him he was wrong when he started to slide off, but I'm not seeing nay lighbulbs come on for him. I feel like I'm missing something, and not seeing the picture somehow. Any suggestions??
thanks much!
Leslie

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:25 AM

hi Bob
I have a young dog who has some issues on the way side in driving. When he is on that side when driving, everything will be going along nicely, with him adjusting to the sheep well to hold the line, but then sometimes he will slide up a couple of steps, which turns the sheep. I have a similar problem when flanking him to that side on a drive--I'll give him a "there" whistle, indicating he should stop and turn into the sheep, and he will take a couple extra steps before turning in. which of course creates a different line than I had in mind! He doesn't do this on the comebye side, and I can't figure out what the deal is. It's almost as if he doesn't have as much "feel" on that side. I have tried pairing a "there" with a "lie down" to sharpen up his response, but that isn't working. I've worked him driving along a fence and told him he was wrong when he started to slide off, but I'm not seeing nay lighbulbs come on for him. I feel like I'm missing something, and not seeing the picture somehow. Any suggestions??
thanks much!
Leslie



Sorry I have taken so long to answer but I was getting ready for the Stampede and had no time. In my opinion your problem is one of lack of obedience to the command "there" and rather than trying to correct the problem with giving another command, I would chastise him for not obeying you. I don't know what your form of correction is but, if it was me, I would call his name and give him a "hey" very sharply and with some anger to let him know that I won't stand for sloppiness, which is what it is. Then give him the "there" again insisting that he take it right now and backing it up with a harsher correction if not heeded. I certainly can't give you a reason why he is doing it but the very fact that he is requires a response on your part which is what I have suggested. Try that for a while, letting him know EVERY TIME that your are displeased and that you won't stand for sloppiness in his work. Don't stay angry or upset with him once he does it right. Correct him and then let him work and I'm sure that he will come along once he knows that he can't get away with it and that it is not what you want of him. Good luck.....Bob



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