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#21 dougf4

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 11:33 AM

Would anyone be able to offer any advice or experience with either of these two brands of puppy food? I have been scouring all the places within a reasonable distance to see what is available and will fit our budget and I have identified these two foods as possibilities.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Wellness Just For Puppies

http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/product/366/Wellness-Just-For-Puppy-Dry-Dog-Food?utm_source=amazon&utm_medium=cse

Crude Protein (minimum)28.00%
Crude Fat (minimum)17.00%
Moisture (maximum)11.00%
Crude Fiber (maximum)5.00%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids (minimum)4.00%
Omega-3 Fatty Acids (minimum)1.33%
DHA* Not Less Than0.13%
Taurine* Not Less Than 0.09%

Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Oatmeal, Ground Barley, Salmon Meal (natural source of DHA-Docosahexaneoic acid), Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a natural source of vitamin E), Ground Brown Rice, Tomato Pomace, Rice Bran (from brown rice), Tomatoes (natural source of Lycopene), Natural Chicken Flavor, Rye Flour, Carrots, Spinach, Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries, Ground Millet, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride.


Chicken Soup For The Puppy Lovers Soul

http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/Product/47/Chicken-Soup-For-The-Puppy-Lovers-Soul

Crude Protein28.00%
Crude Fiber 3.00%
Sodium0.30%
Omega-3 Fatty Acid0.50%
Crude Fat17.00%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids (min)3.30%
Moisture 10.00%

Chicken, turkey, chicken meal, turkey meal, whole grain brown rice, whole grain white rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), oatmeal, potatoes, cracked pearled barley, millet, duck, salmon, egg product, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, kelp, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, chicory root extract, carrots, peas, apples, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake. Vitamins and minerals.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 08:34 PM

I have never been a fan of puppy food. I think if you find a good food you can feed a puppy the adult version. From what I have experienced from friends is that puppies grow pretty fast on puppy food, but that's just me.

Both those foods seem about the same. I think oatmeal is a better grain than rice, but between your two foods you narrowed it down to, I'm sure either will be fine :)

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 08:52 PM

They only grow too fast if you feed them too much.

I tend to think Wellness does a better job than Chicken Soup, but in the end it matters most what food works for your individual dog.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:52 PM

Not trying to hijack the tread. But to those feeding TOTW and or orijen. Has any of your dogs been itchier then normal?

Was feeding TOTW and orijen in the am and raw at night earlier this year... no problem
April I switches over to just dry food TOTW and orijens.
Aug-oct both of my dogs were extremely itchy. Roommates dogs were fine.
Switch back to raw and both been less itchy to not itchy at all.

Talking with other TOTW feeder it seem as if a lot were saying their dogs were itchier then normal. Just curious is all...

To the op. Normally I would say TOTW or orijen but after this last incident I don't know anymore.


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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:15 PM

PRICE LEAP!!!!

Well, our 9 week old BC got one bag of Wellness For Puppies in her and was doing great on it.

I paid 11.99 for the bag about 2 weeks ago.

Went to get another bag and it had jumped to $17.99!

Back to the drawing board and dogfoodadvisor.com to find a new brand.....
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 01:44 PM

Not trying to hijack the tread. But to those feeding TOTW and or orijen. Has any of your dogs been itchier then normal?

Was feeding TOTW and orijen in the am and raw at night earlier this year... no problem
April I switches over to just dry food TOTW and orijens.
Aug-oct both of my dogs were extremely itchy. Roommates dogs were fine.
Switch back to raw and both been less itchy to not itchy at all.

Talking with other TOTW feeder it seem as if a lot were saying their dogs were itchier then normal. Just curious is all...

To the op. Normally I would say TOTW or orijen but after this last incident I don't know anymore.



I didn't see this till today.. sorry for the delayed reply.

I haven't noticed any "extra" itching from the 3 here that eat TOTW. The OES has been on several diff kinds of food and between them all I haven't noticed any real changes with her. The BC's have only been subjected to TOTW and Diamond extreme athlete. And between those 2 I haven't noticed any skin probs.

I have noticed it doesnt "look" as meaty as it did at begining of year. If you know what I mean.. seems to be a duller shade of brown(I feed High Prarie). I have been tempted to switch over to the salmon one lately tho for a bit of extra omega oils. Might just start mixing bags.. ugggh. Could it have been a treat or something you were feeding? I stopped feeding mine chicken jerky early last year and I started making my own treats or using BilJac. Too many treats these days come from China and I try to make sure I don't let them have anything that comes from there.

And yes there was a price increase in TOTW here. Bout 3 bucks more now.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:31 PM

Has anybody used the Costco Kirkland Signature Super Premium Puppy Chicken, Rice & Vegetable Formula?

If so, your thoughts please.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 11:22 PM

Not trying to hijack the tread. But to those feeding TOTW and or orijen. Has any of your dogs been itchier then normal?

Was feeding TOTW and orijen in the am and raw at night earlier this year... no problem
April I switches over to just dry food TOTW and orijens.
Aug-oct both of my dogs were extremely itchy. Roommates dogs were fine.
Switch back to raw and both been less itchy to not itchy at all.

Talking with other TOTW feeder it seem as if a lot were saying their dogs were itchier then normal. Just curious is all...

To the op. Normally I would say TOTW or orijen but after this last incident I don't know anymore.


You know now that you say that, I switched from orijen to totw and I was wondering why he was itchy... Not a lot but enough for me to notice... Since then I switched to acana and no more itch.... Hmm interesting....

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:29 PM

Our 12 week old BC started out on Wellness For Puppies and was doing great. Due to an astronomical price hike from Wellness we have had her on TOW Wetlands Formula with Roasted Fowl.

She seems to be doing great with it, some soft stools for the first week-ten days but now very stable firm stools, no real abnormal itching and energy to beat the band. She also poops much less frequently than when on the Wellness, but I'm thinking that is just her little body going through change.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 02:41 PM

I just switched back to totw and yes I have been wondering about them being itchy right now. I chalked it off to the strange winter weather were having. I'm not through my first bag and coats look much better but they are all itchyer than normal. Can't we just get a good food that doesn't break the bank and stays the same? I'm using salmon but I usually switch around flavors. My young dog gets a bit constipated on the salmon. And I was wondering if they can get to much fish oil as I usually give a fish oil cap daily with breakfast.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 04:40 PM

Is your house really dry right now? It could be environmental instead of the food...

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:23 PM

my house is no drier than it was a month ago probably even 2 months ago but the weather is crazy, going from 60 to 20 in less than 2 days. I was thinking they might be already blowing their winter coats.

No one is itching enough for me to switch to something new yet but again, if dog foods could remain true to how the start out i think it would be eaiser.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:32 PM

I've been feeding TOTW to three of my dogs, mainly the Pacific Stream, but very occasionally one of the others. No excess itching among mine who are on the TOTW.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:41 AM

Yeah, I had the opposite problem. After feeding TOTW for a long time, a month ago, I tried a bag of the Chicken Soup stuff, trying to see if I could save a few bucks. One bag of that, and two of mine starting really itching, so back to TOTW for us. The itching has stopped.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:51 PM

Have you seen this $40 bag of high value food, grain free vs. $70 food?
http://www.pulsarpetfood.com/

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:28 PM

Our new pup Maggie is scary when she eats her TOW meals. (2X a day about 3/4 cup each meal)

I have never seen a dog wolf/vacuum down food like she does.

She gets into a near frenzy and inhales the kibble without any chewing - All gone in less than 30 seconds.

She's about 14 weeks old and surprisingly today is the first time she puked it all up after about 20 mins. Not one kibble was chewed at all.

She is very healthy with lots of energy and good vet check ups. Her stools are very good.

I don't see how there is anything we can do to stop this.

Does anyone have any experience with this, suggestions, etc.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:16 PM

I nearly lost a dog who ate like that. Nothing I ever did slowed her down, so I managed the problem.

First of all, at 14 weeks she should have still been eating 3 to 4 times a day. She is probably wolfing down her food because she got too hungry between meals!

You can soak her food for at least an hour in a lot of water to make it very soft. That seems to slow down some dogs.

For other dogs you need to scatter their kibble across the kitchen floor. This bowl works well for some.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:04 PM

You do not necessarily 'get what you pay for'. There are ridiculously expensive brands out there for people who have more money than common sense...and usually only one dog. I would suggest going for a mid-range priced kibble with chicken meal as the first ingredient. When they list just 'chicken' you can be paying for a high moisture content that is gone after processing. The first 5 or so ingredients are what make up the bulk of the food...everything listed just before the 'fat' of which 'chicken fat' is best. All the stuff listed after can amount to less than 5 or 10% if that, of the actual content. Chicken meal seems to be the best protein source for being least allergenic. I do not use 'puppy' brand either. Mine did just fine on 'adult' food. Too much protein in young dogs can cause too fast growth or pano or possibly OCD issues. Stay clear of corn and any gluten ingredients; they are cheaper for the manufacturer but not the best for dogs' indigestion.
I supplement mine with a variety of home made chicken soup stock, yogurt, eggs, sardines, and leftovers at times. I have a huge salmon in my freezer that is waiting to get cooked and mixed up with veggies&rice to also be added to their kibble on occasion. As well as some frozen lamb & turkey giblets.
I have 4 BCs and a Chi to feed. My cost is about $100/month for the kibble.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:46 AM

My bcs have been on Purina Pro Plan Selects salmon and rice and doing very well; healthy, happy, and shiny coats.

My new puppy is on Pro Plan Selects puppy food. She loves is and is also doing well.

Purina has a good track record. I feel good that they do a lot of research into nutrition and have not had recalls where other brands have.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:08 PM

For other dogs you need to scatter their kibble across the kitchen floor. This bowl works well for some.


If your dog is not prone to chewing on them or flinging them across the floor, putting a few good size rocks in a large dog bowl can slow them down. Same idea as the bowl in the link, but rocks are free. My old dog would fling the rocks around the floor to get to her food faster, though. Feeding her in a muffin tin worked- even if she flipped it, her food just got scattered around the floor so she had to search for it.

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