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#41 juliepoudrier

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 08:17 AM

Ironhorse,
Are you contacting any of the rescues listed above yourself? If you are so far away from this place and the conditions are as bad as you say, then it seems to me that speed is imperative. If you can contact the appropriate rescue people they can probably help speed the response of the local HS, since they generally would have personal contact with these folks on a regular basis. All we can do is give you advice and contacts; as the witness to the conditions it's important that you take the lead on this and contact as many local rescues, along with the HS, as you can, and soon.

I'm sorry if this sounds bi***y, but I just worry that a lot of hand wringing is going on when action is what's needed. And from what I gather there are a lot of lives at stake.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 08:31 AM

Well...what a morning...

Ironhorse - THANK YOU for staying, reading and thinking about what we've all said. You did right by all those dogs and all the future dogs that she had planned.

I can't offer much in terms of help from Hawaii, but if a fund is set-up, please post the link so I can help financially.

Good luck and fight as hard as you can. We are ALL here to help.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 08:54 AM

I too may live way to far to be of assistance, but your police dept. may have a quicker response from the SPCA.

Sounds like something went awry with the breeder, since your prior visits the conditions where not so horrible.

She may be all than happy to surrender the dogs.

I hope everything works out for all. It is very fortunate for these dogs that you came upon the boards.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:17 AM

Ironhorse,

From the beginning I have admired your desire to learn and willingness to listen to sometimes harsh critcism. You are a good soul. These stories break my heart. My beloved girl came from a place similar to this. I am so happy to hear of someone trying to improve even one of these situations.

I wish I was close enough to help. If you need anything let us know. The people here are willing to do most anything to help.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:25 AM

My thoughts are with you Ironhorse. Those dogs are lucky that you followed your instincts to go and check the place out again. I hope there's a happy outcome for these animals. I don't know where Tiga came from, but I do know it's an area that's known for having puppy mills. Stories like this break my heart as well, but people like you help to eliminate situations like this.
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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:41 AM

Just to let everyone know, I have been in phone contact with IronHorse and we are trying to get the ball rolling. We are making contact with the HS of MO and will probably be contacting the county sheriff as well.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:43 AM

Prayers said.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:47 AM

Thanks for this Jennifer - please keep us posted.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:55 AM

I keep opening this thread to read every new post... my emotions are leaving me with the inability to think of anything to say (imagine that!) - except that my prayers are with IronHorse, his wife, and all those poor dogs that didn't ask for this!

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 10:00 AM

Yay Jennifer! We're behind you and Ironhorse and anyone else who has to deal with this.
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Posted 12 July 2005 - 10:06 AM

Ironhorse,

I am not familiar with the Animal Cruelty laws in Missouri, however, from what you have indicated, I suspect that the conditions those dogs have been living in would be sufficient to warrant such a charge had this occurred here. I know your first objective is to help the dogs, but I would encourage you to contact the appropriate law enforcement authorities in the area and report the situation. In many instances law enforcement is able to pick up the dogs and shelter them (or have them sheltered). I don't know if, being where you are in MO, you heard about the "Beagle Bust" in Centerton, AR, but ALL of those dogs -- 60+ of them -- were seized by the police and are being housed in shelters and foster homes pending the outcome of that case. It might be, as someone else suggested, that law enforcement might be able to act faster than the local humane society. I don't know what circumstances caused the death of the dog you saw today, but if conditions are that bad, I'd be hesitant to leave the rest of them there another day if it can be prevented. Additionally, given your description of the breeder/collecter's condition and demeanor today, it might be a good idea to contact law enforcement to see if they could do a "welfare check" on her. I'd hate for her "deterioration" to result in harm to other dogs while awaiting action from the Humane Society -- this is not a slam on the Humane Society, I'm just trying to think of other alternatives that might result in faster assistance for these dogs -- and it sounds as though her thoughts aren't quite rational, so I'd also be somewhat concerned about her possibly harming herself.

Here is the link for Border Collie Rescue of the Ozarks. I'm not sure when it was last updated, but according to the website, their foster homes are currently full. They may know of other contacts in the MO area that might be able to help, though. http://www.ozarkresc...om/newhome.html

I currently have a foster puppy through BCRO, but am not sure how long he'll be with me since he's a total cutie and is drawing lots of interest. Since he might adopt pretty quickly, I might be in a position to either foster (or adopt) another BC fairly shortly, and I'd be happy to help.

Like many others here, I'm so sorry you and your wife had to witness what you witnessed, but I applaud you for doing the "right thing" in response.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 10:08 AM

Thanks for the update Jennifer. Any help you and Ironhorse need, just let us know.

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Beloved, and living in memory:
Willow (6/1997-5/2014, run free, my heart), Boy (3/1995-10/2010, RIP), Jill (8/1996-5/2012, RIP), Farleigh (12/1998-7/2014, RIP), Kat (4/2000-6/2015, I miss you, my sweet, funny little clown), and Twist (11/2001-11/2016, you were my once-in-a-lifetime dog and forever my BEST girl)

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Lark, Phoebe, Pipit, Birdie, Kiskadee (Kiss), Rue, Corbie, and Kite!

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 10:30 AM

Wish I could adopt one from here =

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 10:59 AM

ironhorse,
i have only just this moment read you're post and am truly sorry that i havent been able to send my thoughts to you and your family sooner.
i cant begin to imagine what you must be going through just now. you deserve a pair of wings as you must surely be these dogs guardian angel.
i cannot offer you any help as i am in the uk, but if you need an ear to bash or a shoulder to cry on, feel free to email me at any time.
love and hugs sent your way.
love
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Posted 12 July 2005 - 11:12 AM

Here is another site that may be useful,
http://www.puppymillrescue.com/
This seems to be an active group that is huge here in the ( as much as I hate to admit this :mad: ) Puppy mill capital of the country. It has links to animal rights laws and other useful informaiton. Again if I can help PM me and I'll see what I can do.
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Posted 12 July 2005 - 01:49 PM

Hi all,

I was just alerted to this thread today by an aquaintance. I thought I'd share what I know about Shere and Awesome.

I was contacted about a month ago by a man in St. Louis that was looking for a puppy and asked me to check out the Awesome website and give my opinion. He had spoken to the breeder and thought there were some red flags.

I had never heard of this person or kennel, but I read the entire site and was appalled. Shere Thomas was obviously a puppy miller, as evidenced by having approximately a litter every two weeks, taking Visa/Mastercard and shipping to people site unseen, charging for puppies according to their color, referring to her supposed pets as "Sires" and "Dams," claiming to do OFA/CERF but without providing any actual certificates, etc. I also cross referenced her phone number with an ad that appears in every issue of a local classified ad publication.

The site was also riddled with made up "facts," many of which have been reiterated here--such as the 7 million dollar "winnings" alleged for one dog's ancestor. She was obviously unfamiliar with competitive dog sports, saying that many of her dogs were "frisbee champions" or had titles in BOTH "agility" and "obstacles."

Anyway, since she was referring to ABCA on every page and also inventing trials that her dogs had supposedly won, I contacted both USBCHA and ABCA to see if they wanted to take any action. Within the week, most of the made-up information vanished from the website.

And now I've been alerted to this thread, which apparently vindicates my conviction that this is a puppy mill.

Anyway, I already wrote to Iron Horse, but want to reiterate to the group that I'm willing to foster at least one dog, and hope that a bunch of us will come forward to prevent the regional rescues from becoming overwhelmed. I hope that Iron Horses' absence on this list is because he is right now calling up every rescue and Humane Society in the area where this woman lives. I live 3 hours north of Springfield, but would be happy to spend this weekend down there cleaning up and transporting dogs, etc., if she will volunteer to relinquish them to rescue groups.

Shere, if you're reading this, please let those dogs go so we can all pitch in to find them a situation where they will get the care and individual attention they need.

Columbia, MO

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 02:03 PM

Hail Columbia....

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If not --- Thanks, too!

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 02:05 PM

I've been following this thread and wish there was something I could do from so far away. Please keep us updated and let us know if there is anything that can be done to help.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 02:08 PM

Has the local media been contacted to raise awareness of this? It might help.

Prayers for all involved!!!

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 02:14 PM

God bless you for having the courage to step in and do what has to be done. In my heart I know this will not turn out wrong, this person is in need of intervention, and you will be instrumental in seeing that she gets it. The dogs will all be taken care of, there are enough kind people just here to see that it happens. If I can do anything, call on me privately or otherwise. We will all be waiting to hear more.



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