Posted 05 February 2006 - 03:47 AM
You guys are a rough and dedicated bunch.
One thing I have noticed is that I am still getting bashed for registering/competing in AKC agility. This has nothing to do with the way my dogs are bred, and I would not ever breed my male to a pretty-foo-foo dog. Nor would I breed to a sport collie, as most of those have some strange backgrounds, and strangely enough - agility people are breeding for color and emotional attachment - merles abound and dogs with not-so-great health histories and unhealthy close relatives are being bred.
If working breeders stop selling to agility people, this sport collie nonsense will only get worse.
You keep saying that I will not be able to understand the different manners that BC's work stock and not be able to make a good match for my dogs if I breed them, but you also don't have all the info, and are not giving me credit. I plan to work them as much as my time allows (as I have said, I am not going to quit a sport where I am already a national-level handler and gunning for internatonal), AND I have attended a few Open trials, and I certainly would love to attend more and learn all about the dogs. Please, tell me.
When I did 'start' Drifter briefly (going only on my minimal instruction with my first dog), I DID in fact notice that he has much less eye and intensity than my first bitch. She can hold the sheep very easily from a distance, and has more trouble getting in close. Drifter did not seem to have as much, as he was circling much closer to the sheep. I did get him circling both ways properly and he was eager to go and fetch them in the field. (I didn't let him) However, he was young and distractable, and might have more intensity now.
Believe it or not, there are different kinds of fast agility dogs as well. I believe that learning to understand the strengths and weaknesses on stock will actually HELP me understand how their little minds work on the agility course.
Also, yes, some dogs ARE more natural at agility than others. No, they won't run out in the back yard and do it by themselves, but some seem to take direction better than others, and some are more athletic, some less prone to bouts of silliness, some so serious it prevents them from being their fastest, etc.
(as to where my small female comes from, that is really a rude way to bash me. Yes she is from a high-volume breeder. That is why of my two dogs she is the more likely to go under the knife and get spayed. Her parents do work on the farm some, and I would like to give her a try before I decide. I bought her because she was a left-over puppy who was a 'fireball' and she just had that 'look' in her eyes that got me. Emtional? yes, but I love her and she's a riot to live with.)
agility master, sheepdog novice