Running contact troubleshooting
Posted 16 May 2017 - 05:22 AM
Any suggestions from anyone who a) has successfully trained a running dw or who has had this problem and had success fixing it. I would be keen to hear what you've tried, different methods, stride regulators, boxes, pros and cons etc
Posted Yesterday, 01:53 PM
WHen you say he shuts down for a 2o2o, do you mean he stops working? Or just doesn't have a really good understanding of the behavior? How is his teeter?
I have no experience with running contacts at all but....
My personal experience with creeping into position (I have seen my dog "slow" down to hit the position) is generally related to a toy reward being thrown or used as a proof...The border collie comes out in her and she starts to go into stalk mode. When I start seeing that behavior I work on fast sits and downs, moving downs, racing to toy - because she gets sticky on offering those behaviors quickly if I have a toy. I also go back to clicker training the end behavior with food reward and collar pulls. If she is still sticky, I will work a target plate only in my hand to teach her to drive to the target plate. (Or to revisit) Then I will move it to the floor, then on a variety of equipment outside of agility equipment.
Another thing to consider They have such amazing memories, that all it takes is one or two rewards for a behavior we don't want then they develop a question about what exactly the expectations are. Also, if you do try a 2o2o you will want to change your verbal cue because the current cue may now be a poisoned cue. Meaning, there is some aversive quality (even if it was created by the dog).
Anyhow, good luck!! Either way you go, I suspect you will be breaking things down as if you were starting over to train the behavior.
Posted Yesterday, 02:15 PM
Posted Yesterday, 09:03 PM
I gave him several months off last year from comp and training and came back and started training a running dw using the ST method - carpet first, then plank or ground, then raising the plank, then full dw (lowered and I did backchain to start with), then full height dw. I used a clicker, rewarding for back feet separation on the bottom half of the contact area (because if he got the bottom half with back feet, this meant his front feet had touched first, so a solid hit). His success rate was nearly 100% when backchaining on a full height dw, but the misses have started happening when asking for speed again.
Posted Today, 03:08 AM
If you want to work on solving your 2o2o issues, check out Amanda Shyne's online classes and book, she has some great concepts for making sure a dog doesn't get stuck. When my older dog was a youngster, I took a seminar with her, I had taught the contacts myself, her comment was I love your dog, I want him, but those contacts are terrible. I followed her advice and he does have great contacts.
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