chene Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) February Trick Challenge: Paw Work (Front Paws Only) For general trick training discussion, go here: http://www.bordercollie.org/boards/index.php?showtopic=38991 __________________________________________________ For this month's theme we've decided to focus on front paw work. Depending on your skill level, this may be anything from a paw shake or a target to complex sequences with paw work, or combining things like targeting with already trained tricks. Kingfisher's list of examples for the development of paw related tricks increasing in difficulty: http://www.bordercollie.org/boards/uploads/monthly_01_2016/post-14480-0-65070300-1454260318.jpgWe'll use this thread to ask questions and give support, and at the end of the month (or during the month) feel free to post videos or pictures of the final product. You are also welcome of course to train more than one paw related trick throughout the month. __________________________________________________ Videos Shake: Paw Targeting: High Five: Wave: Be shy: Cross paws: Paws on your feet: Hug (with Cohen!) Enjoy! Edited February 1, 2016 by chene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Yay!!! Here is what I will be working on: Bandit: Get paw touches to some kind of target going for BOTH front paws (currently he pretty much only offers one), progress to paw touches to my hand, him sitting, each paw on a distinct cue. If he masters that, we will progress to front paw lifts (while sitting). Tessa: She already does really nice alternating front paw lifts. I would like to work on her learning to do this while standing (currently she does them when sitting). I would love to see her be able to do four alternating front paw kicks while standing at a distance of about 5 feet from me. But we will just start with the lifts themselves, as she stands. Dean: I would like to work with Dean to see if I can teach him to place both of his front paws, at once, on pods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaserrano Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I will work on feet on low object, then sit, stand and down with feet on object. It's something I've been meaning to train for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass C Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Lily: I'm going to work on backing up to find a target with her rear paws. If I can get that quickly I would like to target with each rear paw seperatly on cue. Lyka: I'm going to try and get her to cross her paws. She is more of a challenge to train than Lily, but she likes working with her paws so wish me luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcv-border Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 For general trick training discussion, go here: http://www.bordercollie.org/boards/index.php?showtopic=38991 For this month's theme we've decided to focus on paw work. Depending on your skill level, this may be anything from a paw shake or a target to complex sequences with paw work, or combining things like targeting with already trained tricks. Kingfisher's list of examples for the development of paw related tricks increasing in difficulty: http://www.bordercollie.org/boards/uploads/monthly_01_2016/post-14480-0-65070300-1454260318.jpg We'll use this thread to ask questions and give support, and at the end of the month feel free to post videos or pictures of the final product. You are also welcome of course to train more than one paw related trick throughout the month. Paw work? Is this the month for just front paws or does it matter? I would prefer only one end at a time. There is so much to do. so I am going to focus on front paw work only, but have to think of the specific skills I want to train. Also, I was thinking that if someone would like feedback, posting a video of the 'problem' would be very helpful to others for formulating advice. I am hoping we are not limited to only an end-of-the-month video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentleLake Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Nice job setting the challenge up, Chene. Especially all the options and videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekah Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Paw work? Is this the month for just front paws or does it matter? I would prefer only one end at a time. There is so much to do. so I am going to focus on front paw work only, but have to think of the specific skills I want to train. Also, I was thinking that if someone would like feedback, posting a video of the 'problem' would be very helpful to others for formulating advice. I am hoping we are not limited to only an end-of-the-month video. I'm always happy to offer my 2c when it comes to trick training if anyone wants it. I think this month is front paw stuff only, so your wish is granted! For me, I think I'll probably work on alternating paw lifts while moving (a skip!) and trying (always trying!) to get a nose cover while begging with a paw, or ideally two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chene Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Switched it to front paw work and added that videos during the month are fine.I think I'm going to teach Aed to pray/clap (not the head down one, but the two paws together one) and see what I can expand that into once we've got it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass C Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Then I will change Lily's trick to. Lifting front paws while in a 'sit pretty' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcv-border Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Nice job setting the challenge up, Chene. Especially all the options and videos. Yes, I agree. This group effort seems to be coming together nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Oh, this is cool!! For the Advanced Tricks title (which Bandit and I are working on), several of the tricks involve front paws: Chorus Line Kicks Cross Your Paws Tap Light/Bell/Easy Button Turn off the Lightswitch Wipe Your Paws And Expert: (Which we will work toward next) Cover Your Eyes Litter in the Step Can (The step part) Open a Door (using handle) Roll a Barrel or Peanut (2 Paws)Also, distance tricks (unspecified) at 10 and 12 feet are an option, and paw tricks can make nice distance behaviors I'm not interested in all of those, but there is lots of potential to tie paw work into finishing these!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemsMom Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Chene, Thank you for organizing this and all the video links! I love that there is basic to advanced. Natasha tends to learn new things really fast but Mattie (my rescue) tends to take a bit more coaching to learn something new. I really appreciate that you have taken the time to put this together. I can't wait to get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riika Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think for Duke I'm going to do paw over nose, and Bobby, maybe cross paws but I'm still looking for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riika Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Training fail- Take #1. I put a sticky note on Duke's nose to encourage him to paw at his face. He stared at it, cross-eyed, until I told him "alright." He tossed it up in the air, caught it, and tried eating it. (The biscuit on nose trick) Take #2. I put a piece of masking tape on his nose, something he can't toss off. He just looked at me. I've desensitized him so much to different things such as a head halter, that he doesn't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I had the same problem when I tried to train that trick years ago. The second, not the first. Even though I haven't conditioned head halters, my dogs are so used to me doing different rigmarole that they will just sit there like, "OK", you stuck something on my nose. OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekah Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Try using a (loose) bungie or hair elastic. My girl wouldn't interact with the tape or post-it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass C Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I used a hair clip for my girls. Their fur was long enough that it stayed until they knocked it off with their paw. This won't work on a short hair dog though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligande Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think I am going to work on picking up each front paw. He knows shake and high five, but I would like to get a solid lift on each leg. We use back leg lifts for his conditioning program and I think lifting front legs will be useful. This will be done from a stand. Anyone have any ideas on getting started? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher7151 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I started Keeper with leg lifts by asking for a shake, but making my hand really limp. Eventually he started to hold his own foot up since I'm such an idiot who won't support his paw. I'd reward the instant he held his foot up at all, even if it was still touching my hand. It didn't take him too long to start just holding his paw up if I extended my hand as if asking for a shake, and then I added the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Big breakthrough for Bandit last night! We were at Rally FrEe class and I was working with him on touching his right paw to my hand. That is the one he always offers. He was in a sit and I would extend my hand toward him and he was offering me the paw right away. So, I immediately offered my other hand. At first he offered the right paw again, crossing it across his body to get to my hand. But when he didn't get the c/t, he thought a bit and then offered the left paw!! DING DING DING!!! He is still very strongly right-pawed on this, but he successfully offered me the left paw several times over the course of the evening!! Dean and I worked with the pod for the first time. At first I was holding it and just having him touch each of his front paws to it as I held it and cued the paw touch. After a few reps, I had it on the floor. His default was actually to use his paw to move it, but he did start to offer just setting a front paw on it and holding still. His performance was equal on both sides.And I worked with Tessa on her standing kicks using a target stick to cue the paw lifts. She did very well with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I think I am going to work on picking up each front paw. He knows shake and high five, but I would like to get a solid lift on each leg. We use back leg lifts for his conditioning program and I think lifting front legs will be useful. This will be done from a stand. Anyone have any ideas on getting started? I train kicks by first getting a really solid paw touch to an object (I like to use the end of a spatula for this, but any object would work, and you really can even use your hand). I ask for the touch as high as the dog can offer it comfortably. After a few reps with reinforcement, I do a rep where I move the target up out of the dog's reach as she reaches her paw up to touch it, and click/treat. Then I do a rep where I hold the target still so the dog can touch it again. I alternate having the object low enough for the touch, and moving it up out of reach so I get a kick until the dog gets used to that, and then I start to attach a cue to the kick. Eventually fade the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Here is a video of Tessa doing the paw kicks with a target stick. I am using the wooden spoon, not a spatula here. It's not a video of the whole training process. At this point, Tessa clearly understands the presentation of the spoon to mean kick her leg up. This would be the point where we would start fading to smaller cues and/or verbal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJack Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 It isn't a BC and it isn't impressive but my 10 year old, deaf, Boston is going back to agility this year and so we had to teach a paw target with a bucket, so. We did the thing. I'll work on getting Kylie's alternating paw lifts videoed when we've actually GOT them. I haven't decided what to do with Molly, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher7151 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Punky is making progress this month!With our blizzard I got stuck at my parents' house, which means training sessions for Scooter! We started front foot targets with position changes. So he's now sitting, standing, and laying down without moving his feet from the target. I want to get super snappy changes where his feet stay glued in place.Think the sequence at 0:38 in this video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 This is where Bandit and Tessa are with their paw work. Dean wasn't home when I filmed today, so he isn't in the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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